[Moonless Midnight]

@Choco: Sure, cause that 'artist' is ticking me off from what you've said.
@Dark: A fruit fly??

[littl3chocobo]

she broke no posted rule she had 6 days before she exeeded the time limit for art but she gave misleading information about what was sold and took several weeks and several times of me asking before she even started and even then she gave art that was /not/ acceptable by any measure, i am wondering if i can find a mod who was hired after i left to be impartial

[DarkForbidden-Love]

Fruit fly is correct. The best way to kill them is with a sweet wine. They drink, get drunk and then drown themselves. As some people say they die and everyone else is happy.

And I'm sure there is at least one mod who is impartial or will help you in accordence to the rules.

[littl3chocobo]

remind me not to let you get drunk then



the '~' is the reply cross over, this is the post in question; http://crysandrea.com/topic/view/10495/1780#2150023 i was given a wait time of a few days

i asked two weeks and three weeks in after my art. seven days ago she opened a freebie art thread so when i found out it was her i asked about the art again and was given a very rushed doodle within an hour or so


littl3chocobo said:
i really, really do not like to complain but this has been weighing quite heavily on me. the art you made was, very low quality, i was exceedingly upset when i received it. it is very low quality, there are sketch marks all over and it is spotty and looks distinctly unfinished, there is also a very large water-mark on it, this is very lazy art. i have talked to several people i know and even shown the image to a few and every last person has told me the same thing, i have been badly cheated by you. i did not get what i paid for and i was shown no respect at all as a customer. people i have talked to have said that that i should either get a refund or a re-do two people have even said hat because you were nearly a month late i should not have had to pay at all(both of whom are shop artists like myself) my own personal stand is if the customer is not happy then the transaction is void and the art /must/ be redone or reimbursed or if it is time that is the matter given extra effort as a way of appreciation for their patience.

you are not me however so i do not know your personal beliefs on the subject but i do know that no shop should ever treat a customer the way you have treated me and though it pains me to speak this way to you i feel that i must say it even if the effort comes to nothing.
~~

You told me not to finish the other half and take the payment, so obviously you are not getting what you paid for. But you did ask for a sketch and that is what I provided. Some days my sketches are cleaner, but overall they are still very sketchy. If you look to the post you made in my shop, it says that you wanted a small image. So my standard watermark is going to look bigger by comparison, but it is always going to be there on images that were not commissioned in real money. I'm sorry you are so disappointed. I'll start up a trade and refund you your items, if that will make you feel better.

However I can not help getting sick and having school, so you'll have to forgive me that I did not jump to finish a virtual currency commission when I had other pressing things to take my time. You should consider that this is essentially free art you're getting. I feel that you should have said something at the time I was working if you are that unhappy with it.



oh, and she did not send a trade and got right offline after sending it^^:

[DarkForbidden-Love]

She was trying to avoid an accident that would give her thread a bad ring to it. Shame on her. And yes that was a normal sketch but a paid for sketch is different. The watermark can be shrunck to fit the image and it takes very little time or effort to edit. And as much as I hate saying this, wait a few days for the trade if it doesn't happen then you cannot be challenged for complaining. If you complain immediatly someone will come to her rescue with some escuse, a longer time frame gets rid of that saftly blanket.

[Moonless Midnight]

@Dark: Ah I see XD I didn't know you could kill em that way.

@Choco: O-o Dude, when you show examples they HAVE to look like that. I had a dissatisfied customer cause I drew it when I was tired and I gave them a freebie of what they wanted as an appology >.>

What that art shop owner did is not right at all. You're well within your rights to complain about it. If she had sketchy AND neat sketches she should have stated so in her shop and post different prices for both. And the watermark.... was the person too lasy to shrink it or what? I mean I'm assuming they're using illustrator or photoshop wich in that case it's easy to re-size things >.>

[littl3chocobo]

i don't want the items though i want her to be honest, she can keep the stuff it's the whole thing with her saying something then /not/ doing it, it's lying and it bothers me

[DarkForbidden-Love]

Any photo editing program even the first version of Paint has something that will resize a picture.

And the price for messy pictures should be halved or more acording to my files from various artist.

[Moonless Midnight]

@Choco: Yeah >.> Lying to your customers isn't a good thing

@Dark: That's true

[Wicked]

I've been lurking (Sorry.)
And while I don't know that particular sites rules I will say that if you have it in writing that she was going to refund those items then one would think she's obligated to do so.

Edit: I see your not worried about the items so much as the principal of the matter.

[littl3chocobo]

i've been a shop artist sind 2007 i'm touchy^^:

[Moonless Midnight]

lol, you should talk more than lurking Wicked. And yeah, the principal of this the thing is quite important.

@Choco: lol I don't really call that being touchy

[Wicked]

I've been lurky lately. *scratches head*

[DarkForbidden-Love]

And it is alright to be touchy. I've been an art appreciator forever and I like people who keep their word unless something had made it impossible to do so. Like if the shop artist had died.

*Pulls Wicked out of Lurkdom.* And now you are here.

[Moonless Midnight]

@Wicked: lol how come?

@Dark: Yup, I totally agree with you. It's fine if the artist is busy with school work (especially if they're in college/university), or sick, or dropped dead, or had important family matters. I mean we all have lives to live. But they should tell you before hand.

[Wicked]

HA!! I have no idea why but the "if they died" made me laugh.
Dark says the only excuse is DEATH.

This is why I've yet to do work for commissions.
I'm aware of how much of a flake I can be.

Still, I've toyed with the thought of opening on of those insanely low priced shops.
Something like 100 aurum. Ugh but then I'd have to post samples and have some consistency in styles and blah! So.. nope.