[Kaderin Triste]

Long coats (like the Duster) that work with skirts without the skirts poking through them!

[Tam I am]

You wanna know something we need? GIRL BOXER SHORTS with ALL THE "SPECIAL" colours! I just went looking for them, and found out that surprise surprise, the only "special" shorts with all the colours for "SPECIAL" fit only the boy bodies.

This needs fixing. Like really.

[Espy]

....Wow, that's really weird. For reference, Special Boxer Briefs vs Special Basic Boxers [F].

Then again, this was way back when Fen did the silly thing with making male- and female-exclusive poses.

EDIT: ....why on earth is the item named weird

[Tam I am]

I neeeeeeeed that purple that's in the "special". *tearful whine*

Wait, what? Weird where?

[Espy]

The female version should be "Special Boxer Briefs [F]" instead of "Special Basic Boxers". If you search for "Boxers" in Threads and limit the results to female-only, the boxers that show up have an odd naming scheme.

[Tam I am]

Ahh. Gotcha.

[Coda]

Originally Posted by Espy

....Wow, that's really weird. For reference, Special Boxer Briefs vs Special Basic Boxers [F].

Then again, this was way back when Fen did the silly thing with making male- and female-exclusive poses.

EDIT: ....why on earth is the item named weird

It wasn't a silly thing. M/F poses weren't implemented yet -- I wrote that code myself after I came on staff. There are a handful of items that I wasn't able to automatically merge after that, either because they didn't have male versions, or because (like this item) they were named incorrectly when they were created.

I can't fix it right now, but if you post about it in the error report forum, Toho can get around to it.

[Espy]

Nah, the silly thing I was referring to is like, for example, Lord of Karmic Intervention being dumb and having different chestplate poses for M vs F.

[Coda]

Oh yeah, that one is dumb.

[Tam I am]

Tried reporting it. Proly have convinced Toho I'm nuts.

[Den]

Here's another dumb one: Dark Pandora Skirt [F],Light Pandora Skirt [F],Black Pandora Pants [Dark], Black Pandora Pants [Light], White Pandora Pants [Dark], and White Pandora Pants [Light]. None of these are unisex items.

[Gallagher]

those i'm not sure we can fix. the boxer briefs have both male and female versions that were in separate items, but the skirt actually has no male version and the pants no female. with the briefs, it's a matter of recreating a greyscale where the pixels themselves are already there. for the pandora items, we would have to recreate the greyscales and have it so both the color sections and the black/white sections work appropriately, then also try to match the pixeling style to unisex them.

if glitch ever wants to take on that challenge, she's welcome to, but in the same amount of time we could just make new items in a similar style.

i generally believe that new items are vastly more valuable than attempting to "fix" choices that were made in the past.

[Coda]

The skirt in particular could probably just be retagged as unisex because it's sized for female hips and the male base is smaller; it would fit close enough to not worry about it.

The pants are only off by a few pixels. They could be corrected manually. I could do it myself; it's a little tedious but it doesn't require any artistic talent. I don't have TIME to do it, but it's hypothetically plausible.

The tops are a lost cause. They'd have to be redrawn.

All in all, it would probably be better to just make a new free newbie set.

[Gallagher]

we do have some items set aside to be additional freebie sets to go alongside the full release of the junk toho is working on

so, as dismissive as it probably sounds sorry, i'm not worried about touching the pandora set ever again

[Espy]

Originally Posted by Gallagher

the full release of the junk toho is working on

Sorry, just nearly spat out my tea.

[Gallagher]

lol

i'm yelling at him to get it done before the year is out, because my need for reordering is strong