[Demonskid]

WEEKS?! -good thing she started eating today- x-x I would die of stress and anxiety if that lasted for weeks...

[MonBon]

It's usually not weeks, but I'm glad she started eating today :)
I remember my cat fell asleep inside the couch for three days

[Demonskid]

o-o inside the couch?!! I'd be freaking out


she slept by my side so peacefully last night =w= i'm gonna miss that.. when i keep her in my room she always keeps me awake demanded i pet her xD

[Boris]

That's so cute!

[Coda]

"Domestic" IS the breed. Your kitty doesn't HAVE any other breed, as your kitty isn't a purebred and doesn't comply with any of the accepted cat breed descriptions.

[Boris]

Domestic isn't a breed. A breed would be a bombay, Snowshoes, siamese, etc... any one of those breeds can either be feral or domesticated.

[Demonskid]

I love how when dogs are acquired, whether they are purebred or not people can just go "Oh she's a lab and German-shepard mix" but with cats you just get "Domestic this"

Yes my cat is domesticated.. that doesn't tell me what she is ;o;


Knowing the proper breed of the animal can let you expect what diseases they might get seeing as some things are more likely to effect certain breeds over the other breeds.

"X breed is more susceptible to respiratory problems because of genetics so do this to take extra care of them. Y Breed on the other hand has a larger chance at this disease due to their genetics, please use caution when doing this with them"

Knowing the animal's breed is important, and it shouldn't cost owners an arm and a leg to find out since it is important. =/

[MonBon]

I mean, domestic short hair is basically the equivalent of saying your cat is a mutt with too few defining characteristics to determine its breed.
Cats haven't been bred to have high contrast between breeds so they're all more similar when compared to doggos.

[Demonskid]

To get a cats breed determine you have to use one of those places that do Pet ancestry.

o3o i was looking at the papers the vet sent home with me, they have her birthday as June 30th 2015 O-O they can figure out the exact day the cat was born?

(still thinks she was born in 2016 not 15) >->,

[Boris]

It's more of an estimation, I think.

[Coda]

Originally Posted by Boris

Domestic isn't a breed. A breed would be a bombay, Snowshoes, siamese, etc... any one of those breeds can either be feral or domesticated.

Nope. They can be feral or tame. Domestication is a genetic process that occurs through selective breeding, and a domesticated animal is genetically a different breed than a wild animal. A feral cat, however, is genetically identical to a tame cat, and the only difference is upbringing.

Similarly, wolves and dogs are different breeds of the same species, but wolves are wild while dogs are domesticated. If a wolf has puppies, and you take in one of those puppies and hand-raise it, it will still be a wolf and somewhere between 2 and 3 years of age it will stop acting like a dog and start acting like a wolf. But if a feral dog has puppies, and you take one of those puppies and hand-raise it, it will be a tame dog for the rest of its life.

[Demonskid]

I still say she is mostly Turkish Angora >->, She has the fur traits, the behavioral traits and she weighs 7.13lbs which is normal for an adult Turkish Angora Female >x<

Though Most cats stop growing after 1 year (unless they're from the bigger breeds like Ragdoll, Maincoon and so on) If she's 2 years old, then she shouldn't have grown like she did. She was pretty small when I got her, everyone around me would say she looked to be 6-7 months old.. And since females tend to start their first heat cycles at 4-5 months old, it's not surprising she went into heat in december if she really was 6-7 months old.

Ahh i want a second opinion on her age >o< Cause if she WAS 6-7 months old back in november, that would make her about 1 year 3-4 months old now... and would put her birthdate around April/May of 2016 not June of 2015.. and she did seem to stop growing around March/April of this year... which would make that the 1 year growth stop for average sized cats..

-head spins- i need more money.. i want a second opinion.. second opinions require monies ;-;

[Coda]

Originally Posted by MonBon

I mean, domestic short hair is basically the equivalent of saying your cat is a mutt with too few defining characteristics to determine its breed.
Cats haven't been bred to have high contrast between breeds so they're all more similar when compared to doggos.

You're right that cats have less genetic diversity than dogs, which is why all breeds of cat are roughly the same size (as opposed to dogs where you have Pomeranians and German Shepherds).

However, saying that "domestic short hair" means the cat is a mutt isn't exactly accurate. The point I'm trying to make is that "domestic" breed cats ARE genealogically a single breed, even if they aren't a pedigreed pure breed. They don't have breed standards set by a central authority that decides "even if it's purebred, it doesn't count as that breed unless it has exactly this, this, and this" but they breed true -- two domestic cat parents will have domestic cat kittens, and mixing a domestic cat parent with, say, a Siamese cat parent will result in a kitten with a mix of the parents' traits. And no matter how you try to mix purebred non-domestic-cat parents, the offspring will never come out as a domestic cat; it will come out as a hybrid of the parents.

(The exceptions, of course, are the purebred cat breeds that were derived from the domestic cat. They're close enough that if you pair two such breeds together, the offspring might not really be distinguishable from other domestic cats, because at that point the second parent is putting in the genes that had been bred out from the first. But you're never going to get a moggie from breeding a Siamese with a Persian.)

That's not to say that domestic cats AREN'T often mutts. My cats most certainly have some Maine Coon ancestry. They're both larger than average, they both have the characteristic ruff (though it's harder to tell on the shorthair), they both have the characteristic facial markings, one of them has long fur... They're not purebred by any stretch, but it hasn't been enough generations for the Maine Coon influence to have faded completely.

[Coda]

Originally Posted by Demonskid

I still say she is mostly Turkish Angora >->, She has the fur traits, the behavioral traits and she weighs 7.13lbs which is normal for an adult Turkish Angora Female >x<

Though Most cats stop growing after 1 year (unless they're from the bigger breeds like Ragdoll, Maincoon and so on) If she's 2 years old, then she shouldn't have grown like she did. She was pretty small when I got her, everyone around me would say she looked to be 6-7 months old.. And since females tend to start their first heat cycles at 4-5 months old, it's not surprising she went into heat in december if she really was 6-7 months old.

Ahh i want a second opinion on her age >o< Cause if she WAS 6-7 months old back in november, that would make her about 1 year 3-4 months old now... and would put her birthdate around April/May of 2016 not June of 2015.. and she did seem to stop growing around March/April of this year... which would make that the 1 year growth stop for average sized cats..

-head spins- i need more money.. i want a second opinion.. second opinions require monies ;-;

You're probably right that she has some Turkish Angora ancestry, but you can't count her as that breed unless you have a pedigree and she fits ALL of the characteristics.

It could be that your kitty grew slower, especially if it spent a good chunk of its life malnourished from living as a stray. And it could be that December was her third or fourth heat cycle.

Ultimately it doesn't _really_ matter. It's not worth stressing over it.

[MonBon]

So knowledgeable coda :O

[Coda]

Eh. Don't praise me too highly for that one. You'll get tons of people who will disagree with me on that. XD It's all a fuzzy mess of how you want to define "breed" -- cat fanciers are super strict about it.