[Salone]

Does anyone play? If so, would anyone be interested in playing multiplayer? I have all the expansions, and really, really, really enjoy Civ.

Who's your favorite civilization? Do you have multiples? Who do you hate?

[Lucid:]

Oh. My. Gosh. So besides League of Legends (which luckily doesn't display time spent playing near as proudly as my Steam games), Civ 5 is my most played game of all time. I actually haven't played it in a long time (a few months lol), but according to Steam, I have a modest 546 hours of Civ 5 playtime.

I like to random my civ most of the time, but I really enjoy playing tall & peaceful. Rather than having favorite civs, I have favorite wonders! Like Temple of Artemis, Petra, Eiffel Tower...Some wonders I almost always ignore and some I almost always build at all costs, haha.

I'd be totally down for a multiplayer game sometime; although, when we're going to find enough hours in a day that works for enough people, I don't know. :P but you (and anyone else who wants) can add me on Steam, my username is Rheadax. Just, y'know, make sure I know who you are when you add me.

[Salone]

Adding!

Favorite wonders? Great Library is all or nothing, followed quickly by the Hanging Gardens. That population boost is wonderful so early in the game.

As far as actual civs go, I prefer playing a very tall Russia, which doesn't sound like it would lend itself to their play style, but it's such a generalist civ that it can excel at it. Quickly trailing them is Korea, followed by Venice because my gosh Venice is wonderful to play as.

And wow, you have me beat in hours. I...I need to rectify this.

We will definitely do some multiplayer. Sei plays as well, you know. >.> *cough cough*

[CupcakeDolly]

I don't actually play, but my bf/drunk house cat does, and I just wanted to drop in and say that it is the funniest thing to hear someone yelling "Yess! Suck my missiles, Ghandi!" (paraphrased)

[Salone]

No no no he has reason to. Back in the day, original Civilization had an error with Ghandi. He was supposed to be set to the lowest nuke hostility, but he was set so low that it wasn't recognized and the game rounded up to the maximum setting. It was left in all the others as a joke about the first, but seriously? Screw that little man. First he brings missionaries. Then he brings ICBM's. Do not trust the little man.

[Lucid:]

Paging /u/Sei ....oh wait this isn't Reddit. xD

I see you've been playing a lot lately. Excellent. I suppose I should stop playing so many dating sims and play a game of civ again. I'm probably out of practice. And I need to crush you guys.

Great Library is eh. I mean, it's one of the best wonders, no contest. But I play mostly Immortal so it's pretty difficult to get. The best path is if I'm already starting pottery/calendar for luxes, but on the other hand salt starts lend themselves best to the necessary production without sacrificing early population. SEE? There's so much to lose, which is why I've come to love the wonders that the AI tends to ignore. The game totally changes in multiplayer though.

[Salone]

Oh yeah, I play mostly against friends and the occasional bot. You've probably got more skill than I do, as my friends tend to be...well, very passive. They're getting better though. But when you have humans, you can manipulate and lie and double cross! That's the fun bits, being able to strike up alliances and feuds that aren't solely based on someone coveting your lands and adopting Order instead of your native Freedom.

[Tohopekaliga]

I just thought to myself, "Hey, I should reinstall Civ V!"

Opened up Steam, and...Civ V was already installed! Oh yeah, I keep good track of what's on my HDD.

It's been a long while since I've played that.

[Salone]

Originally Posted by Tohopekaliga

I just thought to myself, "Hey, I should reinstall Civ V!"

Opened up Steam, and...Civ V was already installed! Oh yeah, I keep good track of what's on my HDD.

It's been a long while since I've played that.

Fire it up! Build the Great Library! Don't trust Ghandi! Cleanse the world of those who would choose the Autocracy policy track instead of Freedom! Ban the luxury of those who oppose you!

[Lucid:]

Woo! We have four civ friends! That's enough for a small map, if we don't want those nasty AI stinking up our game. :3

I might have better micromanagement, but I still really suck at some things, like war. You're right though, that multiplayer is fantastic for double-crossing without getting nasty diplomatic penalties that screw you over for the whole game. Grrrr. AI diplomacy sucks.

[Salone]

I've been trying to beat the AI to the Great Library on Deity. So far...it's been impossible. I can get within 10 turns. But I will keep trying! And we should totally plan a staff Civ V game. You have all the expansions, yes?

[Lucid:]

I think there's like one map pack I don't have, but the simple solution is to not use that map pack. :P

The only way I know of to get Great Library on Deity is to be Babylon, rush Writing and Mining, and plant your free Great Scientist to quick-chop some forest to give you a big production boost while building. I've never actually tried it myself so I don't know how close it is. Great Library on Deity/Quick is something like turn 20-25 though. @.@ I think the highest difficulty I try for it is King, and even then sometimes I have something else distracting me.

The last two times I've randomed a civ I've gotten Shaka. T_T I suck at war so bad why can't I get a tall peaceful civ. Speaking of which, I've remembered that the Aztecs and the Inca are some of my favorites, or at least the ones I've chosen to play the most. I'm fairly fond of China too.

[Salone]

Shaka. Shaka. Shaaaakaaaaa.

Let me tell you how much I hate Shaka.

I hate him this much. Thiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiis much.

Seriously, he is constantly aggressive. He can't seem to take a single city, but he is always on the warpath. Dude needs to learn to chill and sit back. The Huns learned. The Mongols learned. Why can't the Zulus learn? He's just...annoying.

And so far my record is turn 23 for the Great Library on Quick, but that was also either on Prince or King. Definitely had some favorable start positions.

[Lucid:]

Turn 23 is probably almost quick enough to snag it on Deity, depending on who your opponents are. Maybe you'll be against Attila, Shaka, Genghis Kahn, Montezuma, and Alex. They'll let you build the Great Library. Then they'll gangbang all your cities. :D

I don't hate Shaka as much as I hate Alex. >:U You can pay Shaka to go to war with someone else, and he'll probably be your friend after. But Alex. Oh man, he is the worst neighbor ever. He'll take your dirty bribe money, forward settle you, and then attack you anyway.

[Salone]

I need to practice my expansion. I am very hesitant to expand and usually don't even do a second city until well in to the mid game, around turn 100 on standard. I usually go very, very tall and I find it hard to optimize a wide playthrough. Suck as China and Spain so bad.

[Lucid:]

I never play standard (unless I get a fun map save from someone), but I think by turn 100 on quick you are probably supposed to have 4 cities and National College built. It's been a while since I roamed the reddit threads for proper builds though.

I practiced expanding by playing on a huge map and deleting half of the opponents. It's way easier to expand on an 8 person map when there's only 4 civs there to take up space.

My problem becomes, do I build settlers, or do I build archers? I can't seem to balance both. T_T