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Honestly, couldn't say. Never played Nida before. I don't tend to do AP champs. I either do awesome with them or suck utterly....no middle ground. Might have to give her a try at one point when she's free again.

Gah....so want to get Aether Wing skin for Kayle right now...or at least her Battleborn skin. Tempted to try and get it....or maybe try to snag a few other champs.

Sooo...my list of "wanted champions" is steadily growing.....curse you expensive champions! *shakes fist at*

Question: For AP champions, is it worth it at all to worry about Spell Vamp and/or any kind of AD/AS at all? Or strictly AP and items that add slowing or burn effects for spells?
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Old Posted 03-21-2013, 12:45 PM Reply With Quote  
Default   #1266   Hermes Hermes is offline
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With AP champions you focus solely on ability power and utility, you never ever work with AD. This is not counting hybrid champions such as Akali and Jax.

A sample AP build that works for just about any mage:

Liandry's Torment, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Rabadon's Deathcap, Will of the Ancients, Seraph's Embrace, <Your choice of boots>


I also like Rod of Ages and Hextech Gunblade a lot, but I mostly play people like Nidalee who actually enjoy some basic attacks.

When I build my Orianna, a more mana-hungry mage, my build looks more like:
Seraph's Embrace, Rod of Ages, Liandry's Torment, Rabadon's Deathcap, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Athene's Unholy Grail.


The core items for most AP champions are: Rabadon's, Rylai's, Liandry's. The rest is all interchangeable situationally.
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Hm, okay. I guess it would be a good idea to go for Rod of Ages earlier on to make sure by the time later game hits it is fully charged.

I figured Rabadon's was a pretty core one with the high AP boost and the 30% of AP added in.

Thanks Hermes! I actually had a build pretty similar to that when I played Ahri last, and managed to do pretty good despite a Nida with me top lane that ran from most fights.

*shrugs* I guess I'm just better with AD based champs with some life steal and attack speed built in. Definitely enjoying Nocturne....heh heh heh....
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Old Posted 03-21-2013, 01:03 PM Reply With Quote  
Default   #1268   Hermes Hermes is offline
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My Ahri build is usually Will of the Ancients, Rylai's Crystal Scepter, Seraph's Embrace, Rabadon's Deathcap, Deathfire Grasp, Athene's Unholy Grail

I <3 Grail XD
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Nid is viable as AD btw.


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Sorry hyjin, I'm spending some time with family. Good luck though!
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Old Posted 03-21-2013, 09:30 PM Reply With Quote  
Default   #1272   Hermes Hermes is offline
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Nid is INCREDIBLY viable as AD. Her cat form makes AD so flipping happy, and she feels like tristana: The sheer utility of her abilities combined with her range make AD perfectly viable.

Lol hyjin go practice beating Barrier ;D


Also guys I love Vladimir. I built him like this:

Spirit Visage, Will of the Ancients, Spirit of the Spectral Wraith, Warmog's, Hextech Revolver, Sorcerer's Shoes. (I planned on finishing the revolver into Gunblade, but never got the chance)

I'm sure that isn't the OPTIMAL build, but it makes him nigh unkillable at 18
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Hextech gunblade is a tad useless on Vlad. It's great for champs like akali, kat and jax because the ad and lifesteal can benefit them still. However it has no bonus for vladimir, and the gold is better spent on something else.

Try Rylai's, Wota, Spirit Visage, Sorc Shoes, Liandray's Torment, and a Rabadon's Deathcap. The ability power gives you extra health because his passive. Liandray's gives your spells a burn and since you have AoE dmg it's amazing since it's no longer weakened for being AoE. The Rylai's slows them for double burn. Your ult amplifies the damage, and the burn. Spirit Visage gives some tankiness, and better self healing from WotA. You also get some magic pen from shoes and torment.


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Old Posted 03-22-2013, 12:55 PM Reply With Quote  
Default   #1274   Hermes Hermes is offline
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Will try that. Again, my build was not optimal at all xD It's a full Spell Vamp build =P
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I always love being a Yi who backdoors to save the team.....on that note, IP save up go!
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I think my husband's ideal Vladimir build has a Warmog's in it somewhere because with Vlad's passive, 1000 health = 25 AP for free, and my husband plays him top and gets in the middle of the fight to get as much damage off as possible. But I can't remember which of those items Law mentioned he doesn't get... >.> They're all very solid items on Vlad. Maybe he leaves out the Deathcap. I just think that with Vlad's range being so short, he needs that extra 1000 health to survive a fight.


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Most of my builds involve Warmog's, I just love it haha

Yay for maining Nidalee these days. She's just so diverse!

I played Akali and Zed both for the first time yesterday, on a friend's account. I didn't care for Zed much, but he seems like he could be a lot of fun for some people, and he's hits like a truck. Akali was amazing, I love her, and her ult is so fun it actually made me giggle like a child.
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Zeds been seeing alot of competitive play lately. and how about that visual upgrade fr trundle as well as changing his lore up some i believe. on top of that the rework for the Aram mode and most likely the release of Lisandra when Aram mode comes out.
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