[Lauv Keiko]

*fluffs self for poglet and honbuns to sleep on*

[Trakadon]

My number is.... (╯°□°）╯︵ --> 22


... @Chloe~ I've been writing all day about a girl slowly aging and turning to dust to bother with a trap cat-boy for your pleasure XD

[Dawn]

Ah yes.. how did that go?

Anyway.. about to call a night. XD Talk to you all sometime tomorrow..

[littl3chocobo]

the no was 1770, pog gets it with 88 XD

also i want to share this and ask if i made sense;

With the sheer amount of art that's becoming more and more available in the world, is there a danger to having everything available at your fingertips? Will we lose sense of what is bad, good, better and best art?

yes, i see a danger in it. if we were clear thinking and objective we could utilize what we have and see/understand/use it for the greater good of art, sadly most people are small, narrow-minded and unwilling to look at things outside of their comfortzones most of the time, this means while there is more beautiful wonderful frightening /haunting/ art out there there most people will only look at more of the same things they already know and when what they know is well, frankly, not that good then the problem becomes that their perspective is that this great multitude of junk is normal, is beautiful is the /best/ and ruining them for greater instances of the divine excepting maybe the occasional glimpse of it on accident and many people miss such instances

it does not do any good to take a child to the louvre if they won't look up from the comic they brought to look at the art. it does not matter if the comic is the most influential piece of literature of it's sort made in the last seventy years or a piece of trash not worth the newsprint it was made on, if that is all the child is interested in then at the end of the trip if it there was a comic book section in the giftshop then the child will want to look at that not the rest. having more art is good, but only to a point. only if the viewer is willing to look up from their book and see it which when there are so many more 'comics' about is very unlikely


but then this only covers quality and variety >>; i have no real commentary on style and theme and understanding and medium, those are something unique to each person and are unquantifiable. i am only saying that too much of a good thing is not always a good thing and that a surplus of beauty means a surplus of junk as well which makes it so much harder to find the good stuff

[Honey]

I don't know, it is difficult for me to follow and understand

[littl3chocobo]

basically the question is is having more better

my answer is no. because instead of a 1 in 10 chance of finding beauty there is now a 100 in 1000 chance, yes there are 99 more instances of beauty but there are also 999 more instances of trash and if the person is acustomed to trash and likes trash then all that is really done is that there is even more to wade through and less of a chance of the person /liking/ that beauty when they find it. it still breaks down to the same odds though

[Trakadon]

There will always be different levels of art. Art has been around for hundreds of thousands of years. And quite frankly its the artist misunderstanding of their quality of art that causes confusion.

That's my opinion anyways. I mean you wouldn't claim that a stick figure would be in the same category as the Mona Lisa now would you.

[littl3chocobo]

but would it be /better/ if you had all of the paintings made by leonardo if it also means you have every stickfigure as well? and the question if further muddled by, well if someone does not like the monalisa but really likes that cool stickfigure ninja does it mean that by having the /option/ to see the other paintings that the person is more enriched or more likely to develop a love and understanding of classical oil? or does it mean nothing since now he also has so many more stickfigures to look at and he already likes /those/

[Trakadon]

I acknowledge that the Mona Lisa is a beautiful masterpiece but I wouldn't want to own it. There is a difference between liking a piece of art and loving it. As there is a difference to how it effects you. The thing is that different levels of art effect people differently. That is the power of art. Just as one would look upon on the Mona Lisa and be amazed by its grandeur, the stick figure could equally inspire someone to create their own Mona Lisa.

[littl3chocobo]

it is not about that though, it is about whether or not simply /having/ the mona liza is the same as aquairing culture and the short of it is no. if you hate cow's tongue and wont eat cows tongue moving to a farm with a half-dozen cows on it does not mean you will begin likeing cow's tongue


>____> stop thinking of it as art, think of it as /any/ other commodity, that will help you get over your artistic indignation and help you see it from a non-artist pov

[Lauv Keiko]

I came here not to discuss art...xD;
*rolls with choc and noms on a banana*

[Trakadon]

My point was simply that art differs in quality and that all shouldn't be treated the same.

If I bought the mona lisa I wouldn't pay the same amount for the stick figure.

Personal taste has always been the focal point in the art world.

And granted if you hate cows tongues then you simply would eat it. And if you move to a cow farm then you still wouldn't eat cows tongues.

But for art If you don't like it then you wont buy it. But if you go to an art gallery then you will find something that suits your tastes.

Simply put more art is good. But art is never equal.

[littl3chocobo]

so i had this nicely thought out and clear answer for you and hit the wrong key and so lost every bit of it v....v


it is not about that though. you are assuming the person in question has the book and is looking at the paintings on the wall and has money in their pocket to buy the art, it has /nothing/ to do with that it was never part of it, the question is not 'is that picture better than the other picture right next to it?' but 'is the kid who is about to walk by going to look up at either picture?'

let me try and rebreak-down the question;

is it good to have more art?

does having more art make someone any more apt at understanding and appreciating art?


to answer this question you have to reverse the order, since to understand if it is better to have or not we need to understand if it is something that will be used. in fact i am going to make this a little easier by simplifying it and changing art to cars


does having a car mean you understand cars? no. i have a car, i don't know anything about cars i don't care about cars


will having more cars change your understanding of cars? no. if i got a second car i would still not know anything about cars and i still would not care about cars


so let's put it together, is it good to have many of a thing available? will having many of this available thing make you any more apt at understanding this thing?

no, and no

is it good to have many arts available? will having many arts available make you any more apt at understanding art?

no, and no

[Asami]

O.o this is interesting....

[littl3chocobo]

sorry ^^; i am used to people ignoreing the forest for the trees though the other version of this was much better ^^;

[Trakadon]

It all comes down to personal preferences Choco XD