[Coda]

That's why I was talking about runes and past monthlies, not current monthlies.

I'm starting to understand why Gaia does the envelopes. :P

[Lucid:]

it's not that they're not popular, because they're selling. but the prices haven't gone up in months. I bought an Inventors' Dream back in, like, February for 10k. it's STILL worth 10k. Rave Fevers, Pandora's Boxes, Woodland Archers, Dragon Lords, it's all the same thing. They sell, in fact some of them sell remarkably quickly, but as the prices for runes go up, the prices for old rune items sit at the same spot they've been all year.

[Illusion]

xD 10k in Feb? They were 8k in Feb last time I checked. I should know because I bought/sell at those prices that month. And I remember questionably well because I had a conversation in jibber jabber a that time about the prices of Inventors dream and USB sword.

They have been slowly increasing like any other item. You just need to pay a extremely close attention to it. And items do balance out over time.

@ Coda
So you finally realized the purpose of envelopes? xD Took me a year on gaia to figure it out.

[Coda]

I didn't buy Gaia's monthlies so I never really took any time to think about it. :P Really I put VERY little money into Gaia.

[Illusion]

I don't buy their monthlies because I can make more money buying rig bundles <3

I started to think about it because I thought it was stupid. Then I really got thinking and understood why they did it. I figured it out especially well in 2008, and if you look at there monthlies that year you can figure out why I figured it out quickly then, rather then in 2007.

[Coda]

Well, I didn't even buy the rigs. I made my avatars out of cheap stuff. XD

[Illusion]

XD

I used to be worth 15m + in items, then rigs came and.. Long story short, I'm down to 4m in items now...

[Ginger]

It's not that I'm afraid of change. I'm afraid of being driven away from Trisphee because the items are getting sold for too damn high from rich members. God forbid, if I want an extra of each monthly rune item, that's 20k aurum per month, 25k with two aurum monthlies. Not to mention, there's also yearlies and events.

It's not the "change" that's scaring people away, it's that we won't have any extra change for anything other than monthlies if the rich keeping sucking up our funds for one item.

[Illusion]

Well thats if you pay 5k each. True, but remember you don't need to own every single item. (Unless thats your goal... Then good luck with it ^_^)
And if you can't afford a item, then buy Runes. :/

[Ginger]

In a couple of years, you won't have the kind of time you do right now and you won't appreciate how expensive each item costs. 5+ of every monthly item every month is a lot. I worry about anyone who has that kind of time to spend on the computer.

The most I will spend on a monthly item here is 3.5k, and that tops it. If it becomes any higher than that, I will leave Trisphee, or buy runes/items and sell them, but to a specified list of people. The problem with spending money on here is that it takes money to live. If I can get an item on here without spending money, great! But if it's also difficult to buy a monthly item with virtual currency, I'm gonna have to say goodbye.

[Illusion]

So you will leave if someone else can't spend money on the site to sell to you? You'd leave?
You know runes cost this much because people aren't buying a lot of runes to begin with.

Yes it takes money to live, but it also takes money to make the site live.

And Ginger that was kinda a mean way to put your feelings :/ not to me, but towards the site. Is there anything you want to rephrase? xD I make mistakes all the time and you might have said something off. Is that truly how you feel?

[Ginger]

So you're saying you donate to Trisphee? I thought I read you say that you don't donate to avatar sites. If that's the case, why should I have to be entitled to keep the site alive when you don't donate either?

People are buying runes, but they are also hoarding runes. It seems there's more hoarding going on than selling.

And I wasn't dissing on Trisphee, or anyone really. I have other sites I'm on that also take time to gain virtual currency, and when I said "here" I based it off of how much aurum I get per post, how active the site is, etc. Trisphee's artists do a really great job with their monthlies and it would be a shame if I, or a lot of other users, couldn't afford to wear them because the prices are so jacked up. Sure, I'd be better off buying them with real money, but with what real money? Wouldn't you be better off paying for them as well, or anyone else? The problem is that we have to live.

I don't find anything that I said on my above post was insulting. I wasn't directing it at anyone or anything.

[Illusion]

I never said that? .. Unless you had read a old comment saying that I never donated to this site yet. But I ended up spending 25 (or was it 30..) during the japan donation relief, and 5 dollars this month. :/ Plus that doesn't have to do with anything I said to begin with. It looks like your just getting it out there for open debate on someone else other then yourself. Or for another reason for some other purpose.

You seemed pretty steamed, try reading older posts and freshen up what we already covered if you haven't already.

Oh and if the problem is that you have to live, why don't you live?

[Lucid:]

I don't think anything Ginger said sounded insulting at all. I'd love to donate to Trisphee and support the site, but I have rent to pay, food to buy, car payments to make, tuition to be smothered by. Even with all that, I've donated more than you have, Illusion. now that rent is getting more expensive and I can't donate anymore, I'm in the same boat as everyone else who can't donate - I don't have time to make a ton of aurum by posting because I have school, work, and I'm looking for a second job. but I still like to go on Trisphee to relax. I love the items here and I want to be able to collect all of them - making avatars is fun for me, I like being creative and using the gorgeous things our pixelists make. but it turns stressful, not fun, if it's too hard to make the money needed in order to buy the items. on top of monthlies, we have yearlies, and someday we'll start putting out those seasonals that were mentioned a while back.

and I agree with Ginger on the rune hoarding. as far as I can see, most of the people who are donating are either hoarding or selling large amounts to specific people instead of spreading runes around.

[Panda]

I think people should be able to sell and buy items for whatever price they want. If they want to pay too much, then go ahead, it is their choice. I'm not going to go around telling them that they should buy/sell this item for this or that much. Their money...so they can do whatever they want with it. :)

[Ginger]

Tyler, I'm done with this. Do it your way and I'll do it mine, and same for everyone else. Wanna mess with the growth of Trisphee right off the bat by encouraging items to get more expensive? By all means, go for it. Forget anything I ever said and carry on for everyone else's sake. And I don't feel I was being rude, but now that I feel YOU are being rude, I'm giving you the same treatment. I wasn't steamed before but you just did a pretty good job of pissing me off. I'm done with this thread.