[Matt the Merciless]

So I am a male, and I like a lot of things that are designed for girls.
Clothes, dolls, and misc. other things.
I don't get to express it much outside of my room, but it's a part of me I've been learning to embrace more lately.

Anyone else go against the societal "gender rules"?

[Espy]

...Gender? What's that? /shot

[Ultima]

Pff. Read my signature. I'm genderqueer, and hate 'gender rules' as you put it. I say be what you what to be. And there are plenty of trans etc users on here, some are even staff! So no one will think you are weird if you express yourself here. Express away!

So my only question is, do you want to be a girl? Or a transvestite? Or do you just like feminine things? Or are you unsure?
(All of the above are fine, I'm just curious as to which one, if any, are true for you. And you can always PM me or not answer if you don't feel comfortable) ^^;

[Matt the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Ultima

Pff. Read my signature. I'm genderqueer, and hate 'gender rules' as you put it. I say be what you what to be. And there are plenty of trans etc users on here, some are even staff! So no one will think you are weird if you express yourself here. Express away!

So my only question is, do you want to be a girl? Or a transvestite? Or do you just like feminine things? Or are you unsure?
(All of the above are fine, I'm just curious as to which one, if any, are true for you. And you can always PM me or not answer if you don't feel comfortable) ^^;

Yeah that's generally why I like these kinds of sites, everyone is accepting of others : P

It's so complicated for me that I'm still pretty unsure. Haven't had a chance to really try anything out so its hard to say what I really want.

[Ultima]

That's what I kinda figured. That's totally alright. But if you ever need to talk, I'm right here <3

[Matt the Merciless]

Well thanks, I appreciate that c:

[Quiet Man Cometh]

You don't need to be trans or gender anything to go against societal norms, or at least not bother with them. I personally don't care about the "gender role" business but I do recognize it's there. I wear men's clothing if I like something, I have stuffed animals on my bed becuase I like them, etc.

I find it heartily amusing to hear people talk about the natures of men and women and how one can't pretend to be the other without it being noticed (I've actually seen a couple conversations like this, in this case, talking about people playing characters of the opposite sex in Dungeons and Dragons), especailly when said "gender specialists" keep calling me "he." *snickers*

[Coda]

It doesn't help that your username is Quiet "Man" Cometh. ;) That threw me for a long time. :P

And I totally get where you're coming from. I had to spend a long time figuring that out for myself, spent plenty of time questioning, and ultimately came to the conclusion that yes, I AM a guy, but that it's okay for guys to like stereotypically-female things. I'm not about to say my conclusion has anything to do with your own self-exploration, but I know where you are.

Gender norms, like all stereotypes, are only things that you have to heed when your objective is to avoid controversy. But if you want to stir the pot? GO FOR IT.

[Coda]

It doesn't help that your username is Quiet "Man" Cometh. ;) That threw me for a long time. :P

And I totally get where you're coming from. I had to spend a long time figuring that out for myself, spent plenty of time questioning, and ultimately came to the conclusion that yes, I AM a guy, but that it's okay for guys to like stereotypically-female things. I'm not about to say my conclusion has anything to do with your own self-exploration, but I know where you are.

Gender norms, like all stereotypes, are only things that you have to heed when your objective is to avoid controversy. But if you want to stir the pot? GO FOR IT.

[Quiet Man Cometh]

Heh. That's the poet part speaking. "Quiet Woman" or "Quiet Lady" just didn't have quite the same lyrical ring to it. I did have "Lady behind the shadow man" in my sig for a while when I first joined, just to throw people a little more. It was my hint that I was actually female, though not sure how much of one is was. My avatar was my champion, and thus was a guy to start with. ;)

[Matt the Merciless]

People trying to guess genders of people online are silly anyway

[Coda]

It's silly, yes, but people like being able to shorten their sentences. Having to write "Matt the Merciless created the avatar that belongs to Matt the Merciless, which is below Matt the Merciless's name, to the left of Matt the Merciless's post." instead of "He made his avatar, which is below his name, to the left of his post." is quite tedious. And to do that, one must guess. Or one must write in an awkward style that avoids the issue. Or one can use "they" instead, but then one must deal with the criticism of those who would fight for the "purity" of the English language.

[Matt the Merciless]

If someone can't accept the use of "they" in place of "he" or "she" in that case, than they should be ignored

[Kiddiss]

Originally Posted by Matt the Merciless

If someone can't accept the use of "they" in place of "he" or "she" in that case, than they should be ignored

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not treat people who respect the laws of English Grammar as pariah! ~Kat is serious about her grammar and tries to used correct grammar whenever possible~

As for gender rules and roles- I say go with what really feels right to you at your core.
And, side note: I, too, collect dolls (I have more than most toy stores have in stock OTL). Which dolls do you collect, and do you customize?
~Kat keeps this tab open, but quickly runs over to the Hobbies Forum to find other non-BJD doll collectors~ Whee!

[Espy]

I have issues referring to myself, Kiddiss XD (Also. I could swear I've seen you somewhere before o.O;) "She" doesn't sound right anymore. "He" is technically incorrect. "They"...well, the grammar-nazi side of me hates that to no end.

[Kiddiss]

Espy, I have been using this name sine 1998, so I've been all over. I've been a prisoner of Gaia since 2005, and a member of these following avatar sites since 2008: Avaricia, Roliana, Menewsha, and Kinsaki (on which I just recently re-registered because my account got nuked when the site went down in April 2008). I'm also a 2006 member of IMVU, but I haven't been active there since 2009. Are any of those sites familiar to you?

And, I, too have a bit of a "Grammar Nazi" streak in me. I started in advanced English classes all the way back in Kindergarten (they tested all incoming students for placement at my first school). My brothers are math freaks; I'm the language freak >.<