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Suzerain of Sheol
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And just to clarify, most of what I'm saying here is my extrapolation and reaction to Sam's thoughts on the matter, he doesn't actually have all that much to say about it. I can find you the clip on youtube if you're interested, though. (Also, Pigeon, I'm sorry if this is hijacking your thread. We can take this to PMs if needed.) Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion between supposed lovers. Between supposed brothers. | |||||
Posted 09-20-2015, 05:24 PM |
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Lawtan
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Probably part the bit about "calling it a God is not relevant to its moral imperative" - was more confusing, but in retrospect it does fit into the "an alternative term for divine is 'something of value'" idea.
I can understand the idea - sort of akin to my idea of efforts to make something more sustainable/survivable than what exists in nature - go extremophiles! (And yeah, sorry for the detraction) Lawtan: A chaotic dragoness with issues. __��s ofer�ode, �isses sw� m�g. __ Science, horror, folklore, and cuteness incoming! | ||||
Posted 09-20-2015, 06:48 PM |
MyPerfectPigeon
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Posted 09-24-2015, 03:29 PM |
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Do you think it would be irresponsible to make such a being, as it isn't implausible that it can rule other civilizations, forcing human morality onto them? | |||||
Posted 09-24-2015, 03:36 PM |
MyPerfectPigeon
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Jediism also interests me, but for reasons slightly different than your own. It's an almost exclusively online community and I really am curious as to how that works, since there are sermons apparently. Havism is probably the newest religion out of the three, so it isn't well known. I personally like its values, which is why I converted. That's awesome your family is so religiously diverse :) What is asatru, if you don't mind me asking? | ||||
Posted 09-24-2015, 03:40 PM |
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No need, no need. I appreciate the courtesy, but I encourage having respectful discussions here :) so carry on by all means
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Posted 09-24-2015, 03:45 PM |
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Lawtan
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Technically, they are diagnosed as psychosis in cases where the idea results in harm (their own or others)...mental illnesses again here being a rather iffy term. As Suze may agree, by certain definitions of mental illness, all human society is delusional and ill.
Lawtan: A chaotic dragoness with issues. __��s ofer�ode, �isses sw� m�g. __ Science, horror, folklore, and cuteness incoming! | ||||
Posted 09-24-2015, 10:48 PM |
Suzerain of Sheol
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Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion between supposed lovers. Between supposed brothers. | |||||
Posted 09-25-2015, 02:55 AM |
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Lawtan
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I highly respect those belief systems where people value other life above human convenience. I wouldn't think that they would be too dissimilar to the imperative of supporting a superior moral intelligence that may decide to eradicate mankind. Certainly neither favors human as special or superior, but both see humanity as having a function or role. (Though, "fluffiness" can be a thing here...sort of like "softness" of science fiction)
Lawtan: A chaotic dragoness with issues. __��s ofer�ode, �isses sw� m�g. __ Science, horror, folklore, and cuteness incoming! | ||||
Posted 09-25-2015, 07:48 AM |
Suzerain of Sheol
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Perpendicular to that topic, though, I also meant to mention the... I don't know about similarity, but overlap of the concept of Nirvana and liberation from Samsara (I know very little about this, correct me if I'm abusing these terms) with the pessimist/nihilist view on the banality of human consciousness. On at least a basic, conceptual level the self-annihilation spirituality of those systems seems at least in a nearby framework (1) to the positions like mine that hold the current state of evolved human self-awareness to be an unnatural malady that should be abrogated from nature.(2) 1. It is possible I am grossly ignorant of the nuances of Buddhist, Jainist, and other associated belief systems. 2. That is not to say I am in favor of anyone being forcibly removed from existing, only that the idea of essentially breeding ourselves gradually out of existence is not the worst possible future I can imagine. On another note of far-flung transhumanism, something I never really see discussed alongside stuff like AGI and mind-uploading is hypothetically being able to use such technology to FIX consciousness, and maybe repair us to such a degree that the way we actually are resembles what our intuitions would have us believe we are. I'm not sure how clear that is, now that I've typed it. I wonder what conscious existence of that sort would even be like. It might just be too paradoxical to both science and philosophy to even be able to discuss, though. Cold silence has a tendency to atrophy any sense of compassion between supposed lovers. Between supposed brothers. | ||||
Posted 09-25-2015, 06:16 PM |
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It looks like I'm a little late to the party on this one, buuut...
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Posted 10-07-2015, 02:06 AM |
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