[Lauv Keiko]

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Alright, I am not American just to let you know that guys.
However, I am very interested with how things will go in the elections tomorrow since basically about 85% of all the users here in trisphee are Americans.

Who are you going to vote for and why?
If you're not voting, why is that?


(( btw guys, don't EVER start arguments here. xD I'm just asking. ))

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[Tiva]

I plan on staying up to see who gets elected....
I am not going to state who I voted for mostly because I don't want to listen to the opposite opinion.

My roommate won't vote because 'she doesn't care about the president because in 4 years she wont be a US citizen' She plans to be in Germany once she graduates.

[Ultima]

I'm so anxious for tomorrow, you have no idea.

But I can't vote because I don't have a licence. AUUGGGHHHH.

Because I don't want EVERYONE seeing it and possibly giving me crap about it, who I want to win is in white ---> Barack Obama. Because Romney's policies scare the $#!+ out of me. If a pro-rape and anti-choice man beats a pro-lgbt and pro-women man, I will NOT be happy.

[Natsunaine]

I rather vote for neither.. owo.. Reminds me of a quote but ill keep it to myself don't want to start a politic's battle x3

[Meizicht]

Gary Johnson.
I refuse to cast my vote for either two "evils" ( or rather, bullies ) just because of popular opinion, or because they have more money.
There is a third option that everyone is either too ignorant to look up or just ignores. I'm personally too disgusted with Obama and his lies ( He runs ads in my state, Ohio, saying he "saved" the auto industry and thousands of jobs... with the auto factories being heavily concentrated in my area, all I see are abandoned buildings and struggling families. Along with the auto companies that shut down here, where hundreds of small shops and businesses that relied on those factories to thrive, so it wasn't just them. How much worse of a lie can you get? ) He disgusts me with how he conveniently says things and does things at JUST the right time to gain popularity; he has charisma, but that's all. Lets not forget the things you DON'T hear about. The unmanned drones killing innocents in the middle east, indiscriminate murdering, jailing of those who speak out against this government, etc. And I'm just being vague about that stuff. At least if Romney is elected, I believe the economy is more important that social issues right now. If I had to choose between marrying my boyfriend, or LIVING, I'd most likely choose living. ( Rape/women/LGBT/abortion issues can also be settled by the state. ) Since after all, no job means no money means you starve.
That doesn't mean that I like Romney at all. I don't. Which is why I'm going for the third option.
Frankly, I'm scared to death if either of the two "big bads" gets elected. With Romney, there's more discrimination. With Obama, I could live on the street. Who the hell knows? This country is fucked up beyond repair, unless there's a group somewhere who could overhaul our entire government and make it right. But that can't be done without violence. So the best way we can do it is to vote; which is shitty because 70% of this country doesn't take it seriously, and will just vote for whoever's more popular or looks better or whatever other petty reason.
I do not trust the people of this country to make a mature, serious decision. So we're stuck with whatever those Jersey Shore watching, Kim Kardashian loving, Britney Spears aspiring, illiterate idiots decide.

Sorry, I'm just in hate with it. I can't trust my own country which ultimately is screwing me over against my will. It's like my lifestyle is being gangraped by billions of strangers all the time.

Gary Johnson or Jill Stein would be my top choices. Look them up. Obama and Romney give me stomach ulcers.

EDIT: Also, please nobody tell me "you're just wasting your vote". I'm sorry if this offends you, but if you think that way, you're just contributing to the problem. Instead of telling someone it's a waste, you could turn to a person who doesn't know about these other candidates and MAYBE give them a chance to actually make this country better. Being that I'm in a swing state and a majority of my friends here are thinking of going this way, it's not off the table.

[Serra Britt]

I'm voting too. I hear a lot of arguments and such, but I did my own research on the four candidates (yes four...it's not just two) and made my own decision. Will my choice win? Who knows but if everyone didn't vote because they thought it wouldn't matter then we'd have a big problem.

I hope everyone who can will go vote, no matter who they choose.

[Meizicht]

"yes four...it's not just two"
Thank you

Hate to linger around in here and being all "RAGE RAGE", but thank you.
I'm so sick and tired of everyone blocking the other two candidates out, when they're probably the more mature of all of them. Obama and Romney are like children; snotty, mud-flinging bullies who spend all their time and money on slander ads, trashing each other instead of maybe sitting down and telling us straight-up and frank about what they honestly intend to do with our lives. It makes me seethe that people just don't look shit up for themselves and only believe the ads on television; they don't even HEAR about candidates like Jill Stein and Gary Johnson. It really makes me want to move out of this country, but I don't have the money to. If I did, I'd be out so fast, I'd break the sound barrier.

Anyway, yes. Thank you. lol

[Lucid:]

Well I had a great big post written up, but I lost it. Long story short, I'm not voting this year because either state I can register for (Washington or Utah) is absolutely set in their political alignment and have been for ages. Just my luck to have grown up in a fiercely liberal state and be going to college in a completely conservative one.

I believe that because the economy and jobs are the biggest issues right now, Mitt Romney is the best candidate for president right now. My favorite professor personally knew and worked with Romney and endorsed that he was a smart and hard-working man who could turn the country around. That's what we need right now. We need a businessman who can get the house and senate to actually work together and get things done.

Most importantly, my friend posted this on facebook today:

I think the ballot should have no pictures, no names, and no parties. You should have to READ a candidate's stance and policies, and vote accordingly. Too many people voting for Obama because he's Obama, and too many people voting for Romney, because he's Romney. I feel like we are all a very uninformed voting base, voting for the leaders of our country as if it was American Idol.

which sums up my feelings perfectly. I feel like this would not only solve the issue of idiots voting, but also give the other parties a fighting chance.

[Darth Vader]

Meizicht, most people don't know about Gary Johnson or Jill Stein because they're part of the Libertarian and Tea Party parties, respectively, and Democrats and Republicans are the main highlight of almost every single election. I also believe that Gary Johnson's liberal views on everything are way too open-minded for such a still conservative and traditional America. A lot of people, for instance, still want church and state to coexist, and the Libertarian movement doesn't typically support that. There's a lot of reasons why people like Gary and Jill will never be in the spotlight because of Democrats and Republicans holding the spotlight (thanks to all the attention they're given through the help of lobbyists and private funders and what have you).

I'm not saying that I don't disapprove of Gary Johnson or think his participation in this campaign is utterly pointless, but... I think if people even do know who Gary Johnson is and know of his views and everything, some people will be thinking, "Why vote for him if he's never going to win this election, anyway?" So, they vote for one of the top two competitors; in this case, Obama or Romney.

Personally, I may either vote for Gary Johnson or Barack Obama.

[Amoena]

I myself am a college student in a very blue state, and it's tough being conservative. I am registered an independent, but I am so conservative that I just can't stand for the socialist issues Obama decides will "make a better america". I'm sorry, but no matter what the issues are, Obama is completely anti-american, and is doing a wonderful job at segregating our country.

But that's just my two cents, and they won't be worth much for much longer I fear haha! ^^;;

I'm so in love with Paul Ryan it's almost embarrassing. I heard him speak before he was even being considered a VP candidate and I was so impressed. I immediately went on to facebook and liked his page! xD

I do think if you drop a lot of the superficial issues you get two huge politicians. One that manipulates the media and one who can't stand up against the onslaught.

On the actual issues and my true stance on things I fall narrowly between the Libertarian candidate and Romney, to answer the OP >.>;;

[Meizicht]

Vader: That's pretty much what I meant when I talk about how I think the majority of people in this country aren't serious about this ( meaning, they only think Donkey or Elephant and that's that ). They don't think for themselves; if you vote, you should vote for who you want in office, not for who you think most people are voting for. It disgusts me that it's like this. That's why, to me, it feels like a bunch of strangers are "gangraping" my lifestyle. Instead of moving on and thinking for others besides themselves, they, as Lucid's friend put it very well, treat this like American Idol.
I do still think it is very ignorant if people don't know about or don't care to know about the other two candidates in this election, or any at all, and they still intend to vote. It's not hard to go online and look them up; the bottom line, to me, is that if you're an American citizen, it's your duty to help your country seriously, viewing all options you can to better pick your poison or antidote, and you should be serious about it. But I'm fully aware that, to put it harshly, this country is full of dolts who don't give a crap about that. They're more worried about what their favorite celebrity is wearing or if the candidate is christian or not. It makes me want to puke. Dx
( TL;DR - I know what you're saying and I'm very aware of it, but those who only vote because of majority or tradition instead of priorities and who will actually get the job done, are ignorant, in my opinion, though I know my opinion wont change it, lol. I take this pretty seriously since it effects me and where I live very delicately right now. )

Edit - also, I want to clarify, I'm not saying this stuff as a "if you vote mainstream, you're ignorant". I'm saying, if you vote without giving each candidate a look, you're not taking it seriously. If you have actually done research and took it seriously, and you still choose Obama or Romney, then hey, that's your choice, and that's respectable. But if you're one of those "OBAMA'S GONNA GIVE ME MONEY, AND HE'S BLACK" or "ROMNEY'S GONNA MAKE US RICH, AND HE BELIEVES IN GOD" kind of people who only vote based upon what they see on television, then honestly, I do not think those people should vote at all. They don't take it seriously, they don't give a fair look to each candidate and they're driving this country into the ground, taking every single person who actually seriously wants to make this country better, down with them against their will.




Anyway

I like Paul Ryan as well, which actually will make me feel loads better if Romney is elected. Ryan is no Biden; he wont be a puppet, nor will he sit back silently if he thinks something is wrong. I respect him enough to think, with him as VP, it might be a good idea if I had to go mainstream, to go with Romney. That's another thing about Obama too; you can tell the candidate by their choice in VP as well. Obama, in my opinion, picked Biden because Biden doesn't say or do anything. He's just there as a requirement. Ryan, however, gets shit done.
Lol, I also want to note how I hate a lot of Obama supporters using fear and guilt tactics to intimidate those voting for Romney. "If you're pro-rape, vote for Romney". "If you're pro-homophobes, vote for Romney". I would vote for him over Obama any day because I am pro-getting shit together. You have to hand it to the man; he didn't just sit on his ass to make that crapload of money he has. He knows how to work hard. He is also a logical guy; I highly doubt he has any interest in forcing women to put up with being raped, in whether or not two guys or two women can get married, etc. He's been more focused on jobs and economy, as far as I have seen, and that's why, at least, if he does get elected, I will sigh a breath of relief.
Even if he does bother with the social issues, the individual states can just do what they want when it comes down to it.
Being that I belong to this "LGBT" category ( hitting all the bases here ) I think it's saying something that I would rather have Romney over Obama. Just sayin'.

That doesn't change that I will stick with Gary Johnson as my main man. I vote for who I think will be best for the job, and that's him. I won't break down and "settle" for mainstream just because it's mainstream.

[Ginger]

I'd vote for Gary Johnson if I were a registered voter.

[Espy]

Everyone's telling me to vote...and I really think I should, but I don't want to vote for either Romney or Obama, TBH. I have serious issues with both.

...With that being said, I might still vote for one of them. Obama's attitude towards the upper middle class insults me to no end, but Romney is a douche in terms of views of rape and whatnot. Jill Stein's whole taxing policy would hurt me, and I think her platform is way too lofty.

[Lauv Keiko]

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Hmmm.... so much to learn.
Thanks for your opinions, people ^^

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[Poggio]

I have to say with out obama care, I would either be dying or have to have my leg cut off due to an infection. I would also be out 1000s of dollars just with in the last two weeks because of my health.

That being said I don't really care about who wins, I have been hoping that the lesser of the two evils wins because in the end, if Romeny wins I may not be able to afford to live, if obama wins nothing will change since congress likes to fight him every step of the way.

I am more interested in things on a local level, like how to appeal amendment one, and when the lightrail will go across the city and for city council to stop wasting money on projects they will never complete.

[Tiva]

North Carolina, we are the state of lets start shit and get stuck in the mud....
Amendment one was passed because they forced the "one Man one Woman" part of it as the only facet... The state will have to appeal it and federal government really cant do shit on how we conduct second parent adoption.

Also, Who is ready for the political ads to be over?