[Suzerain of Sheol]

Originally Posted by Lawtan

I highly respect those belief systems where people value other life above human convenience. I wouldn't think that they would be too dissimilar to the imperative of supporting a superior moral intelligence that may decide to eradicate mankind. Certainly neither favors human as special or superior, but both see humanity as having a function or role. (Though, "fluffiness" can be a thing here...sort of like "softness" of science fiction)

I'll confess I'm not terribly familiar with those faiths, nor even which particular ones we're talking about. Jainism is one, yes?

Perpendicular to that topic, though, I also meant to mention the... I don't know about similarity, but overlap of the concept of Nirvana and liberation from Samsara (I know very little about this, correct me if I'm abusing these terms) with the pessimist/nihilist view on the banality of human consciousness. On at least a basic, conceptual level the self-annihilation spirituality of those systems seems at least in a nearby framework (1) to the positions like mine that hold the current state of evolved human self-awareness to be an unnatural malady that should be abrogated from nature.(2)

1. It is possible I am grossly ignorant of the nuances of Buddhist, Jainist, and other associated belief systems.

2. That is not to say I am in favor of anyone being forcibly removed from existing, only that the idea of essentially breeding ourselves gradually out of existence is not the worst possible future I can imagine.

On another note of far-flung transhumanism, something I never really see discussed alongside stuff like AGI and mind-uploading is hypothetically being able to use such technology to FIX consciousness, and maybe repair us to such a degree that the way we actually are resembles what our intuitions would have us believe we are. I'm not sure how clear that is, now that I've typed it. I wonder what conscious existence of that sort would even be like. It might just be too paradoxical to both science and philosophy to even be able to discuss, though.