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Originally Posted by Poggio

Where as Ernya probably has a slue of people through their monthly contest where if they are good enough they can possibly approach as a new pixelist.

What kind of monthly contest is that? Pixeling contest or just designing stuff? I don't usually go on Ernya so I have no idea. O:

Originally Posted by Poggio

I have to be honest, I was on manahaven when something like this happened. Rather then trying to fix the battle system or fix the glitches on the threads, find more artist to make items and sprites the owner just kinda said yeah, this site has already eaten up a lot of my money so Imma just stop it. It didn't make it past Beta. It really bummed me out. I mean Zomg wasn't coded in a day and I am sure if the owner spent time with the glitches and his development team it could have worked.

Is that what happened to manahaven? I joined and was active for like a week or two and when I went back it was gone! That's really sad when that happens. I've seen A LOT of avi site progress blogs that just stop updating. Whether it's from lack of finances or loss of interest. It's kind of sad. It helps if the person who wants to run the site is talented at Coding. I feel like it's much easier to get artists than developers and probably cheaper so if the owner can code and makes the site them self, it puts them ahead of the game.

Also I think sites like that should have a working prototype of the site/game before accepting Betas. It's really annoying to join a "Beta Avatar Site" that is just a basic forum and it seems like 90% of them don't get past that stage. I don't think they know how much money would go into starting something like that. I never have but I would assume that it would cost at least $2,000+ unless everyone involved is doing it for free but even then you have to pay for the domain/server/web hosting.

@ littl3chocobo, sorry I missed your post! I agree with what you said about Gaia. And plus I think the people who started it were all able to participate in all aspects of it's creation for "free" so they didn't have to initially pay for a lot of things. From what I've read on their Wiki, apparently they ran their own server in their house too! And Catch-22 is definitely the best way to describe a lot of avatar site failures.