[Lucid:]

Alright, worth two waves. I don't know exact minion values because I don't take creeps from my carry. ;)

Honestly though, I'm just really frustrated with people who play support but think they are entitled to any of the creeps or kills. And that's coming from somebody who plays almost exclusively support. Some people think that getting money is fun, but I think that using all my utility then dying while my carry gets a triple kill and gets out unharmed is fun.

I don't like comparing my game experiences to pro games because in Bronze, you're going to get more money from kills than from farm. If someone's mechanics are good enough to get 5/6 minions from each wave and not get harassed down to dead, they can almost certainly carry up to high silver or gold at least.