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Meizicht · 09:18 PM

TL;DR - People shouldn't use feminism to get attention/money/personal gain. When someone is hurt, it doesn't mean it's sexist. When a woman doesn't get her way, it's not automatically sexism. Males get hurt too, but are stigmatized for it. Feminism =/= women should have life on a silver platter just because they are women. But at the same time I know the media and come businesses do discriminate; I'm not denying that. I'm saying that whereas women have hurdles, so do men and everyone else. Women are not the only ones who have to struggle. And being a feminist doesn't mean you have the right to bully all the guys around you.

Please red the whole rant, though. And it would also be a good idea to read all the replies as well, to see all sides.

First off, I would like to say before anyone begins to flame me that no, I am not an ass who hates women. In fact, there are a lot of things about me that would prove this, but I'd rather not reveal my entire personal life on the internet for everyone to see, so I'll just describe my "disclaimer" here before I rant. I do not deny that people get raped, threatened, murdered, hurt, bullied, etc etc. I do not turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to those who have been. I am not saying that one person doesn't deserve the rights of another. I am not saying that all feminists are bad. I do not support rape. I do not support anything that harms another. I am a NEUTRAL person. I do not see GENDER, COLOR/RACE, PREFERENCE, SEXUALITY, and I do not care if you prefer fantasizing about horses in hot tubs; it is not my business, I do not have a problem with it if it doesn't harm another or have anything to do with my life.

That being said...

People need to start looking at the fucking picture. The big picture. Not "women" and "men", but PEOPLE. It is not a game to see how many points on the unfair bar each gender can get. I've seen so many things that have nothing to do with sexism, suddenly become blown out of proportion, and all about "gender equality". Okay, so.. For most of what I've experienced, and what I have seen - because I will not comment on things I have not experienced and seen - most of these "feminists" don't seem to want to stop at "equality".

I wrote a rant before about this, when I saw an image on Tumblr about "equality" for women. Here it is:

I believe I saw the word “equality” in this as I read it, and I think we need to look at this word a little deeper. “Equality” does not mean that every human who happens to possess a uterus gets to be hoisted upon a throne while those unlucky enough to be male have to put up with abuse in the shadows. Do many hardcore feminists acknowledge the fact that there are female sex offenders, females who beat the fuck out of others, who kill others, who are just as bad as the male offenders? They never put the spotlight on them; they never mention it. Why? Because males aren’t as “precious” as women are in this society. When I see someone, anyone, feminist or not, who gripe about having to be a woman in today’s world because it’s just so dangerous ( by the way, it’s dangerous for EVERYONE ) and who act like a total damsel in distress with no way to defend herself, and then talk about “rape culture”, and how males are not in as much danger; tell that to the faces of the guys who have been hurt, abused, raped and to the families that had their sons, brothers and fathers killed. Statistics don’t matter when someone’s life is the subject. Gender boundaries shouldn’t even matter. Feminists shouldn’t be FEMinists, they should be HUMANists. Don’t just defend females, defend ALL PEOPLE. Don’t single out males when there are PLENTY of women sickos in the world as well. It is not a gender trait to rape and kill; it’s a gender-blind mental issue. It’s a stigma for males to be hurt in todays world, while it’s a pitiable situation for a woman in the same spot. You think that is equality? I’m sorry, but I think the word you’re looking for is “favoritism”.

Now, I’m not a stupid discriminating woman hater obviously. I am just so tired of seeing the “popular side” of the argument, which is just flat out cruel. You say “media teaches women to hate their bodies” but you don’t see that it’s the same for guys as well. If you’re not “ripped”, “in shape” or any kind of strong, then you’re not a man. If you don’t have sex with 29847210984 fucking people in you’re life, are still a virgin at 16, then you’re not a man. If you dress certain ways, like certain things, talk a certain way, then you’re not a man. And you get stigmatized for it. But nobody even glances at that.

People assume that because you’re a man, you don’t get hurt. And if you do, you’ll be just fine. Because men are taught that it’s WRONG to be hurt. And the general group of feminists seem to allow that while it HELPS to put women on top of the world while men are looked at as filthy pigs.

Humans are humans, not “men are men” and “women are women”.

It pisses me off every day when the news spends three hours talking about a woman being raped, when the Sanduscky case got about half an hour of media attention every other month. ( Adding to this since the verdict came out recently; I bet not many people even paid attention to the fact that for years, NOBODY BELIEVED THE VICTIMS. ) It just seems like “if it’s not a woman, it’s not popular” and the male victims get punished just for being victims.

I’m sure the argument “women can have children” will be thrown in my face; that shouldn’t even matter here. There are many ways to prevent that, and hospitals DO prevent it when a victim goes in to get checked. Aside from that, it’s not like males have any more resistance to any STDs than females do, they hurt the same, get effected by it the same, but the only difference is, society tells males that they have to hide it or else they’re not a man.

Do I also have to mention that when a woman hits a man, it’s not even an issue? But when a man defends himself against a woman, it’s called domestic violence? I’m not talking about the assholes who just wail on women who do nothing, but I’m talking about all the times, casually in public, at home, wherever, where I see some woman hitting and punching her guy friends, claiming “if you hit me back, I’ll call you a wife beater”. Or when behind closed doors the woman is beating the shit out of her husband or boyfriend, and he finally defends himself, and nobody looks at his argument because he is a man, and he is automatically the bad guy. ( Adding also, when it comes to words as well; I hear plenty of women spitting "all men are pigs" like it's just an everyday normal thing, while when a man calls a woman anything at all, he'll be leered upon for the rest of his life. )

And if anyone thinks that is fair, then you’re not looking for that word, “equality”. You’re just looking for excuses to serve life on a silver platter for women.

So before anyone claims that feminists have it hard because people hate their opinion, please look at yourself for a moment; are you really in it for the EQUALITY or are you in it so you can be worshipped for being a woman? Do you want to defend ALL VICTIMS, or do you just want to sit on a throne? A REAL feminist doesn’t stigmatize men and slap labels on their faces, because that would be hypocritical. So wake up; you’re just doing what you think MEN are doing to you.

Before anyone rips into me for defending the least popular side of the coin here, I’m NOT saying that women don’t get raped ( obviously people can get raped, regardless of who you are ) and I know that the media is teaching the wrong message. I’m NOT saying that all men are angels ( but nor are all women ) and I’m not saying that women aren’t discriminated against ( but so are men ). I’m saying that feminists need to also take off the blindfold and open their minds to the fact that this is not a gender issue. It’s a human issue. ALL PEOPLE deserve to be defended and to NOT have to be scared when they’re alone outside these days. ALL. PEOPLE. Not just women. Not just men. EVERYONE. Nobody should have to be afraid of others.

I’m not telling people not to care. I’m telling people to care about more than just women. Care about everyone.

If you’ve got a problem with what I’m saying here, then you need to take a step back and sort out what your individual intentions are with your opinions. Either way you look at it, if you don’t want to defend people regardless of their gender, race, appearance, whatever, then you’re not defending the cause; you’re trying to personally gain something from it.

Equality shouldn’t be a loosely used word. Favoritism gets mistaken for equality when the argument is a “hot trend”. Just saying.

I think it's probably about time people stop looking at "which parts do you have" and focus more on "you and me are the same".

Everyone is of course welcome to discuss. But respect everyone's opinions. Man, woman, neither, both or hell, even if you're a damn chicken, I don't care; whatever you think is how you think. It might be vastly different from my opinion, but that's fine. We may argue, but that doesn't make us enemies. Doesn't make me a "filthy pig". Doesn't make you one either. So be sure to keep this in mind while posting. Please and thank you.

Meizicht Cage		Equality or Favoritism [ You might not like what I have to say ]	#1
	TL;DR - People shouldn't use feminism to get attention/money/personal gain. When someone is hurt, it doesn't mean it's sexist. When a woman doesn't get her way, it's not automatically sexism. Males get hurt too, but are stigmatized for it. Feminism =/= women should have life on a silver platter just because they are women. But at the same time I know the media and come businesses do discriminate; I'm not denying that. I'm saying that whereas women have hurdles, so do men and everyone else. Women are not the only ones who have to struggle. And being a feminist doesn't mean you have the right to bully all the guys around you. Please red the whole rant, though. And it would also be a good idea to read all the replies as well, to see all sides. First off, I would like to say before anyone begins to flame me that no, I am not an ass who hates women. In fact, there are a lot of things about me that would prove this, but I'd rather not reveal my entire personal life on the internet for everyone to see, so I'll just describe my "disclaimer" here before I rant. I do not deny that people get raped, threatened, murdered, hurt, bullied, etc etc. I do not turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to those who have been. I am not saying that one person doesn't deserve the rights of another. I am not saying that all feminists are bad. I do not support rape. I do not support anything that harms another. I am a NEUTRAL person. I do not see GENDER, COLOR/RACE, PREFERENCE, SEXUALITY, and I do not care if you prefer fantasizing about horses in hot tubs; it is not my business, I do not have a problem with it if it doesn't harm another or have anything to do with my life. That being said... People need to start looking at the fucking picture. The big picture. Not "women" and "men", but PEOPLE. It is not a game to see how many points on the unfair bar each gender can get. I've seen so many things that have nothing to do with sexism, suddenly become blown out of proportion, and all about "gender equality". Okay, so.. For most of what I've experienced, and what I have seen - because I will not comment on things I have not experienced and seen - most of these "feminists" don't seem to want to stop at "equality". I wrote a rant before about this, when I saw an image on Tumblr about "equality" for women. Here it is: I believe I saw the word “equality” in this as I read it, and I think we need to look at this word a little deeper. “Equality” does not mean that every human who happens to possess a uterus gets to be hoisted upon a throne while those unlucky enough to be male have to put up with abuse in the shadows. Do many hardcore feminists acknowledge the fact that there are female sex offenders, females who beat the fuck out of others, who kill others, who are just as bad as the male offenders? They never put the spotlight on them; they never mention it. Why? Because males aren’t as “precious” as women are in this society. When I see someone, anyone, feminist or not, who gripe about having to be a woman in today’s world because it’s just so dangerous ( by the way, it’s dangerous for EVERYONE ) and who act like a total damsel in distress with no way to defend herself, and then talk about “rape culture”, and how males are not in as much danger; tell that to the faces of the guys who have been hurt, abused, raped and to the families that had their sons, brothers and fathers killed. Statistics don’t matter when someone’s life is the subject. Gender boundaries shouldn’t even matter. Feminists shouldn’t be FEMinists, they should be HUMANists. Don’t just defend females, defend ALL PEOPLE. Don’t single out males when there are PLENTY of women sickos in the world as well. It is not a gender trait to rape and kill; it’s a gender-blind mental issue. It’s a stigma for males to be hurt in todays world, while it’s a pitiable situation for a woman in the same spot. You think that is equality? I’m sorry, but I think the word you’re looking for is “favoritism”. Now, I’m not a stupid discriminating woman hater obviously. I am just so tired of seeing the “popular side” of the argument, which is just flat out cruel. You say “media teaches women to hate their bodies” but you don’t see that it’s the same for guys as well. If you’re not “ripped”, “in shape” or any kind of strong, then you’re not a man. If you don’t have sex with 29847210984 fucking people in you’re life, are still a virgin at 16, then you’re not a man. If you dress certain ways, like certain things, talk a certain way, then you’re not a man. And you get stigmatized for it. But nobody even glances at that. People assume that because you’re a man, you don’t get hurt. And if you do, you’ll be just fine. Because men are taught that it’s WRONG to be hurt. And the general group of feminists seem to allow that while it HELPS to put women on top of the world while men are looked at as filthy pigs. Humans are humans, not “men are men” and “women are women”. It pisses me off every day when the news spends three hours talking about a woman being raped, when the Sanduscky case got about half an hour of media attention every other month. ( Adding to this since the verdict came out recently; I bet not many people even paid attention to the fact that for years, NOBODY BELIEVED THE VICTIMS. ) It just seems like “if it’s not a woman, it’s not popular” and the male victims get punished just for being victims. I’m sure the argument “women can have children” will be thrown in my face; that shouldn’t even matter here. There are many ways to prevent that, and hospitals DO prevent it when a victim goes in to get checked. Aside from that, it’s not like males have any more resistance to any STDs than females do, they hurt the same, get effected by it the same, but the only difference is, society tells males that they have to hide it or else they’re not a man. Do I also have to mention that when a woman hits a man, it’s not even an issue? But when a man defends himself against a woman, it’s called domestic violence? I’m not talking about the assholes who just wail on women who do nothing, but I’m talking about all the times, casually in public, at home, wherever, where I see some woman hitting and punching her guy friends, claiming “if you hit me back, I’ll call you a wife beater”. Or when behind closed doors the woman is beating the shit out of her husband or boyfriend, and he finally defends himself, and nobody looks at his argument because he is a man, and he is automatically the bad guy. ( Adding also, when it comes to words as well; I hear plenty of women spitting "all men are pigs" like it's just an everyday normal thing, while when a man calls a woman anything at all, he'll be leered upon for the rest of his life. ) And if anyone thinks that is fair, then you’re not looking for that word, “equality”. You’re just looking for excuses to serve life on a silver platter for women. So before anyone claims that feminists have it hard because people hate their opinion, please look at yourself for a moment; are you really in it for the EQUALITY or are you in it so you can be worshipped for being a woman? Do you want to defend ALL VICTIMS, or do you just want to sit on a throne? A REAL feminist doesn’t stigmatize men and slap labels on their faces, because that would be hypocritical. So wake up; you’re just doing what you think MEN are doing to you. Before anyone rips into me for defending the least popular side of the coin here, I’m NOT saying that women don’t get raped ( obviously people can get raped, regardless of who you are ) and I know that the media is teaching the wrong message. I’m NOT saying that all men are angels ( but nor are all women ) and I’m not saying that women aren’t discriminated against ( but so are men ). I’m saying that feminists need to also take off the blindfold and open their minds to the fact that this is not a gender issue. It’s a human issue. ALL PEOPLE deserve to be defended and to NOT have to be scared when they’re alone outside these days. ALL. PEOPLE. Not just women. Not just men. EVERYONE. Nobody should have to be afraid of others. I’m not telling people not to care. I’m telling people to care about more than just women. Care about everyone. If you’ve got a problem with what I’m saying here, then you need to take a step back and sort out what your individual intentions are with your opinions. Either way you look at it, if you don’t want to defend people regardless of their gender, race, appearance, whatever, then you’re not defending the cause; you’re trying to personally gain something from it. Equality shouldn’t be a loosely used word. Favoritism gets mistaken for equality when the argument is a “hot trend”. Just saying. I think it's probably about time people stop looking at "which parts do you have" and focus more on "you and me are the same". Everyone is of course welcome to discuss. But respect everyone's opinions. Man, woman, neither, both or hell, even if you're a damn chicken, I don't care; whatever you think is how you think. It might be vastly different from my opinion, but that's fine. We may argue, but that doesn't make us enemies. Doesn't make me a "filthy pig". Doesn't make you one either. So be sure to keep this in mind while posting. Please and thank you. Last edited by Meizicht; 07-10-2012 at 09:18 PM.
		Posted 07-10-2012, 06:12 PM