Wait, Coda's an artist?
 

Well, I can't really draw, but I do generate some interesting stuff from time to time.

http://greenmaw.com/ahigerd/reaching.html

http://greenmaw.com/ahigerd/allrgb.png

http://greenmaw.com/ahigerd/allrgb2.png

*Thumbs up*
I like it!

Trying a few different rendering parameters, this time I've got one that's very... rainbow.

http://greenmaw.com/ahigerd/allrgb3.png

So, I opened those two up and got horrifying flashbacks of trying to make stuff in TKinter. Python and most coding languages are not my friends.

That's pretty cool. What was the driving motivation there?

Coursework >.> Class that I needed to take to start a Robotics minor, but gave up halfway through, making it my third and latest failed attempt to learn to code.

☆ I'd be willing to feel the pain ღ

☆ If it got me to the other side ღ

I tried to make the rules for post flobs easy to read. You're in the clear.

Those are really nifty, Coda. That last one you posted is really trippy. <3

*tilts head curiously to one side*

These kind of like fractals? I'm only vaguely aware of digital art outside of Photoshop. I like the third one you posted. These would make some neat wallpapers.

The circular ones aren't fractals, at least not by a technical definition; a fractal is self-similar such that if you zoom in on it you'll see details similar to what you saw before you zoomed in. (The first one, the red and black one, IS a fractal. You can see the repeated patterns at varying scales, and if I were to render zoomed in you'd see more of those blue-black swooshes in the same pattern.)

There is a similarity, in that they're generated by a computer program based on an algorithm, and the artistry comes in by selecting good parameters to the algorithm and choosing attractive outputs for presentation.

I would like to know how to do that...
Any guide-links or advice on how to look it up?

Hmm. I honestly don't know what to suggest on that. I never used any such reference. My ability to do this kind of thing evolved naturally out of my general-purpose programming ability -- the only thing I'm using that's anything "special" is a library that lets me read and modify pixels (which I could do just as easily with a block of memory and then a library that lets me convert raw pixels into a PNG file).

Hey Coda, have you ever used Apophysis?

Never heard of it. *researches quickly* Interesting. Maybe I'll try it some time.

Coda makes such nice art with his stuffy stuffs. Haha.

I like the rainbow one. It's all swirly and has all these little designs in it if you look up close. x3

I think the first of the allrgb set has more in the way of fine-detail swirls.

Stuff that happens when stuff doesn't load:

http://i.imgur.com/1I45jjo.png

I really wish I could do that.
*Doesn't understand the first thing about connecting programming to visuals*

>.> Honestly being able to do that to me makes you a god <.<

So, what would you call wanting to know how to do/learn everything?

Unresolved ambition. And likely personal foolhardiness.

Tripy circles. X o X
I tryed doing fractals at one point in the past and they didn't turn out well. I hate math too, so I'm guessing that was the problem.

Yeah, you definitely have to appreciate math to stick with it very long.

I remember I used to despise math, but it turned out that I only despised math CLASSES.

Oh man. So trippy. I like. I will have to look at these after I have smoked.

Ha, I forgot about this thread. Now I kinda wanna go render some more stuff with different parameters.

I have other things to do, though. Even discounting work and packing for my move, if I spend time hacking on creative stuff I want to spend it on algorithmic music instead of graphics. I've got some ideas that have been floating around in my head for a long time on how to try to get past the problems most algorithmic music systems run into.

Oh cool! You should share when you got a piece you like.

Wow Coda, that's some pretty neat stuff. Even if it is just a render, still probably takes some tweaking to make it look like anything interesting. Makes you an artist in my book ;)

Well, this isn't algorithmic music, but it's still music -- I realized I need to get some more practice in writing music myself before I can ever have a chance of teaching a computer how to do it.

So I wrote this: https://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/stuff/mm2style.m4a

Or you can also see it this way: https://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/tracker/mm2style.html

It's meant to be a study in the style of the Mega Man 2 soundtrack. It's not finished yet -- I still need percussion (the tracker can't do percussion correctly yet) and there are a few places that don't quite sound right and I can't figure out how to fix it, so I'm reaching out for critique and advice.

Oh hey, finally someone else who uses MML for composing.

I... uh... wrote that in Noteworthy Composer and then transcribed it to MML in order to generate the audio. >.>

But yeah, I wrote that MML player.

Did you know the NES's "triangle" channel isn't actually a triangle wave? It actually looks like this:
https://www.mattmontag.com/nesvst/triangle.jpg

Did you know the NES's "noise" channel isn't actually white noise, but a specific generated pattern? And there are actually TWO such noise generators?

Yeah, I learned those things while working on this, and I've got a perfect emulation of one of the noise generators, a nearly-perfect emulation of the other one, and a close enough approximation to the triangle wave to pick up the harmonics you hear on the original hardware.

Huh, interesting.

And haha, only reason I know how to do MML stuff is because of Mabinogi.

I've never played Mabinogi but I did look through a bunch of Mabinogi examples when looking for sample MML code to test my engine with.

Oh, haha. Should've just asked me. I've got a lot of MML examples for that game :|

It turns out Mabinogi's MML support is too limited for it to have been a very useful test. I found other stuff.

A couple of the test files that I was able to adapt during development:
http://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/tracker/mml.html
http://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/tracker/nesmml.html

One I arranged myself based on The One by Babymetal, it's very obviously not done:
http://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/tracker/theone.html

The last one I did in particular because I'm trying to learn how to write music in that style.

Been a while since I've done anything here, hasn't it?

https://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/stu...eader-Coda.m4a

Not an original work, just a bit of a remix of the Club Leader theme from the Pokemon TCG game for Game Boy. (And it's barely even a remix, really more of a remastering, since it's basically the same as the original, just better.)

If it had been a while since I'd posted anything, it'd been even longer since I've written any original music.

https://xmpps.greenmaw.com/~coda/ld46-bgm.mp3

I cannot express the utter joy it was to have something like this come together after such a dry spell. I was trying to make something inspired by Flight of the Bumblebee, since my Ludum Dare game is insect-themed. This is what came out instead. You can still hear it in there, but it went a very different direction.

Amusingly, I didn't start studying music theory in earnest until long after I stopped writing. I've always written intuitively and this piece is no exception, but while I was filling in the harmony I had to take a step back and figure out how the heck it was working. And in the end, I don't quite know enough about analysis and functional harmony to understand what it's doing in a couple places, and I'm the one who wrote it!

That is quite well done! Clearly I know who to talk to if we need music for Trisphee games in the future. :)

:] *hums at 0:58* x] It's cool! I can see this being a mini-boss battle or something.

Not too far off! Here's the game it's for: https://trisphee.com/forums/showpost...2&postcount=14

I wouldn't count on it. ^^() I've written two songs in the last six years. I can try if it comes up, but I can't make promises.

I found out about an AI that's been trained to write music in various styles, so I threw the first few bars of that last song into it and generated a few different continuations... it's... actually kind of impressive.

http://greenmaw.com/aimusic/

I expected it to work. I know what AI can do these days. But actually HEARING it in my own style is kind of... visceral.