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Gallagher 12-04-2018 09:40 PM

don't encourage the children

Coda 12-04-2018 09:56 PM

You don't believe kids should grow up with a healthy appreciation for STEM?

Gallagher 12-04-2018 10:02 PM

absolutely not lmao

KittyBeary 12-04-2018 10:13 PM

Coffee and candles and cats, yay!

Derpy McBlueEyes 12-04-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by KittyBeary (Post 1887178)
Coffee and candles and cats, yay!

"TWO OF MY FAVOWITE THINGS!"

Stabbsworth 12-05-2018 11:33 AM

you underestimate my stupidity in html and css, coda.

also, server costs.

tumblr could've just moderated their shit, but no, they have to ban nsfw content, which sex workers rely on, on a day that's very important to sex workers. never mind the fact that people rely on commissions of nsfw for money.

all this because of apple. fuck apple.

Coda 12-05-2018 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidbarker (Post 1887232)
you underestimate my stupidity in html and css, coda.

also, server costs.

tumblr could've just moderated their shit, but no, they have to ban nsfw content, which sex workers rely on, on a day that's very important to sex workers. never mind the fact that people rely on commissions of nsfw for money.

all this because of apple. fuck apple.

Free servers are totally a thing, though they might have content restrictions. And paid hosting can be REALLY CHEAP -- the hosting provider I use is $7/mo if billed monthly, or $4/mo if billed yearly. (I really ought to go ahead and switch to yearly billing.) Of course I only use that for really basic content like my resume and hosting my Ludum Dare games. For day-to-day use I actually host a server from my home Internet connection. This is easier than it sounds.

Unfortunately, no, Tumblr actually CAN'T moderate their stuff. There's WAY TOO MUCH OF IT for humans to monitor and as the current flagging chaos proves it's insanely hard to automate it with any level of accuracy. I agree that it's ridiculous, and I think their old policy was probably fine, but I imagine they wouldn't have changed the policy if some business consideration hadn't made it relevant -- maybe the cost of enforcing the policy as it stood was too hard, or maybe it was too hard to enforce it, or maybe there was legal pressure in some jurisdiction, or maybe the existing moderation system was getting abused or wasn't catching enough violating content. But moderation wouldn't have been the answer.

What does this have to do with Apple, though? It's Verizon you should be getting pissed off at, since they own Tumblr. As far as I know, Apple has nothing to do with it?

EDIT: Though I can't really say a whole lot about your HTML/CSS skills. That, at least, could be a valid point.

Gallagher 12-05-2018 06:24 PM

Apple and Verizon are both playing a part in the larger scheme of what this incident represents.

Apple taking the Tumblr app down was a notable trigger, and considering there was not even a month between that happening and the Tumblr announcement, it can't be reasonably be crossed off as a related event. Apple has a history of heavy restrictions on all of its apps that are questionable in how it affects both the market on the whole and the freedom of groups to truly make the games/apps/content they want while still being available to as many people that may want them as possible.

Verizon IS at fault because they were going to eventually make this move anyway, but Apple getting involved sped it up, as well as opened the doorway to discuss how this Tumblr nonsense relates to the big picture shift of any and all notable websites/apps/whatever being pressured into fitting the cookie cutter expectations of a clean and family friendly internet that pushes anything questionable or mature into the deep dark depths never to be touched by people with any moral integrity.

Coda 12-05-2018 06:53 PM

Ah, okay, I was wondering what the specific business rationale was, and that explains it. Thanks.

Stabbsworth 12-05-2018 07:42 PM

i do not have a paypal, nor am i particularly willing to get one right now as a result of me being underage.

i do know that there's free web hosting around, which is actually needed for an update-able ukagaka. i really ought to make my own, i'm currently relying on someone else to actually transfer the files for the ukagaka to the website. though, i've no idea how well that will go over.

i'm marginally annoyed at the fact that sites nowadays require a phone number. sure, it's security measures.

Gallagher 12-05-2018 08:08 PM

i'm equally bothered by the push to eliminate any sense of anonymity from websites, which is a related subject

Stabbsworth 12-05-2018 08:14 PM

don't blame you, but some users with the power to be anonymous are twats. it's one of the downsides of anonymity.

also, had some gutrot. probably going to be on the motherly niagra falls this week. my back still hurts.

Gallagher 12-05-2018 08:16 PM

anonymity is a necessity of free speech.

i will take some twats.

Stabbsworth 12-05-2018 08:18 PM

i'll take all the twats on. 1v1 fox only final destination no items. we'll see who wins.

Gallagher 12-05-2018 08:19 PM

hell yeah, that's the spirit

Stabbsworth 12-05-2018 08:21 PM

if they can't run smash ultimate in a switch emulator on the highest quality possible, i'll take 1v1 with Rayman in Brawlhalla.


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