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Suzerain of Sheol 05-11-2011 08:21 PM

Suze Poetry
 
I'll be using this thread to post some of the poems I've written. Comments are very welcome, as is criticism. I love being criticized. I must be a masochist. :p

I wrote these two in creative writing today (while ignoring the teacher's banal assignment).

My poems tend to be not very direct. I don't like just stating what I'm trying to say. It actually bothers me when I hear/read poems that need no dissection to be understood. Admittedly... I may go too far, at times.

Beyond Recall


Choking on Roses

Suzerain of Sheol 05-13-2011 12:42 AM

One of my more religiously-themed poems, and also one of my favorites.

Thaumatology


Suzerain of Sheol 05-13-2011 04:25 PM

I just found this buried on my hard drive. I can't even remember when or why I wrote it, but I like it, as short as it is. Sort of prose poem.

A Mirror for the Stars

Suzerain of Sheol 05-14-2011 01:47 PM

A couple more, religious themed again, though fairly twisted.

Salvation



Cardiophage


Quiet Man Cometh 05-14-2011 07:52 PM

Hi there! Read through some of your poems last night but my brain wasn't working so well so I ran away from the longer ones. I will state though that "Choking on Roses" was the title that caught my attention the most.

I was intrigued by "A Mirror for the Stars," but ultimatley I couldn't focus on it well because -and here's my gripe- the "Time is relative" just screams cliche' to the point where it bounces me right out of the poem. One, I'm not sure how it fits into the poem at all given that the perception of time doesn't seem to be a major point, and two, I have no idea how relative time connects to remnants of any kind. Blah! Don't get it. It's also a little annoying in the sense that it's this sort of 'no &@^$' line in the middle of an otherwise fairly interpretive poem.

Okay, so that's wasn't as civil as I normally am but that really was my first impression of that particular phrase. Otherwise, I did like the lines and ideas, particularly the first half sentence at "stones."

Suzerain of Sheol 05-14-2011 08:03 PM

I'm curious as to whether you mean "caught my attention" positively or negatively. I was iffy on using that title.

As for the rest, well, for one thing, I seem to have gotten confused. I meant to post a different prose poem, I've never been terribly fond of that one. I wrote it on a whim in class and never really went back to it.

And I understand what you're saying. I'm not even sure what I meant by that line. The two clauses don't seem to fit together at all, and it's trite and, as you said, obvious, while at the same time making little sense.

As a very simple fix, what immediately springs to mind is to reword it to "Time is a fractured frieze..." though that still leaves it feeling somewhat disconnected from the rest. I'll have to think on it.

Thanks for commenting. :)

Quiet Man Cometh 05-14-2011 08:21 PM

Ah, yes. I'd say the title caught my attention in a good way. In one part, it's the usual contrast between pretty roses and choking nastiness, and as far as poetry titles go, it's graphic and direct, rather than vague or smokey with efforts to be mysterious. It made me curious to read it, though as I said, I ran away from the length. I will get to it, really!

"Fractured freeze" works better, but I'm not entirely sure what role time has in the poem in general. I'll have to read it again with a little attention on the rest of it.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-14-2011 08:24 PM

I wouldn't bother looking to deeply into 'A Mirror for the Stars,' if I was really going to work on it, I'd expand it to fit the concept of that line in better.

Suzerain of Sheol 05-15-2011 11:32 PM

Brachiation

Suzerain of Sheol 05-17-2011 02:43 PM

Ah, found it. This is the prose poem I meant to post above.

Savor This

Quiet Man Cometh 05-18-2011 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzerain of Sheol (Post 657686)
I wouldn't bother looking to deeply into 'A Mirror for the Stars,' if I was really going to work on it, I'd expand it to fit the concept of that line in better.

No discouraging people from reading into poetry! :p Comes with the territory of being a poet. ;)

Suzerain of Sheol 05-18-2011 11:49 PM

Well, yeah, I'm just saying, if you read too much into that one, you're likely not to find anything too special. :p

8bit 05-19-2011 12:26 AM

ur poetry is awesome! aha makes me want to write one now, but i'm not soo good at it xD

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 12:29 AM

Oh, thank you. I have more, I just haven't gotten around to digging it out of the recesses of my hard-drive yet.

Quiet Man Cometh 05-19-2011 02:47 AM

Practice can do a lot, Sakura. Sounds funny but one doesn't have to be brilliant at poetry from the get go. My old stuff is generally cringe-worthy but I did gradually refine what I did and work out what I liked best about writing and stuff got better.

I suppose I could share too, so that it's not so lonely out here. I'm really not sure if I should post on other threads that have been around so long. Are they considered dead?

Suzerain of Sheol 05-19-2011 08:27 AM

I assumed they were dead, but what do I know? :p

Anyway, for me, I still keep the first poem I ever wrote in my "Poems I like" folder, but the next... 30 or so are all very firmly in "Poems I Don't Like" awaiting cannibalization whenever I see fit.

I guess I can include it here. It's certainly not my favorite, but I don't hate it. It's a bit more direct than I usually am, though, and seems a bit... grasping. Pretentious, maybe? Hedging cliche? I don't know.

Flight

Suzerain of Sheol 05-25-2011 09:56 PM

Hmm... forgot about my own topic.

Well, I'll have to make up for it. Here's two, both of them about Lucifer the Morning star. I find something romantically baroque about the myth of his Fall.

In Victory's Garden


In Purest Plummet


Suzerain of Sheol 05-28-2011 10:51 PM

This one, for the record, has nothing to do with my username, beyond my like of the word, I suppose. It's about the sociological force of religion over human history.

Suzerain

Suzerain of Sheol 06-01-2011 10:25 PM

I wrote this one today. It's rather odd, being a single sentence over twenty lines long, but I think it flows well enough that that isn't a problem. I wrote it on a whim, musing on the perspective of a stillborn child. 'Cause that's a normal thing to do.

Biography of a Stone

Fiyero 06-02-2011 04:55 PM

I enjoyed reading your poetry!
What I read was all rather good.

Suzerain of Sheol 06-02-2011 06:47 PM

I appreciate you commenting. Thank you for the compliment. :)

Suzerain of Sheol 06-08-2011 10:43 AM

Consolation and a Marble Lamb

Suzerain of Sheol 07-11-2011 01:25 AM

Wow, has it really been a month since I last wrote a poem?

Momentary

Suzerain of Sheol 07-19-2011 12:13 AM

Hallowing the Hollow


Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2011 12:15 AM

Settlement


Lost_Muse 07-21-2011 01:59 AM

Your poetry is good, way better then mine will every be. Savour This and Choking on Roses would have to be my two favorites. I do enjoy Salvation as well, to me it sounds like death is talking to his latest conquest, while Cardiophage reminds me of the tale of Apollo and Daphne, but that just me.

Anyway I'm going to go and hide in my cave now. Bye.

Quiet Man Cometh 07-21-2011 05:03 AM

Your prolificness makes me jealous Suzerain. I'm still fighting with my apoc. poem and nothing new has yet struck my fancy. I've rewritten a couple poems not to my liking and have yet another shell of a potential poem with nothing of substance to put in it.

Want to trade a couple unfinished pieces and see if we can work through them? :p.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2011 10:39 AM

Haha. We have very different poem-writing-processes, Quiet. Mine come very organically, never taking more than an hour to write. To use George Martin's analogy, gardening vs. architecture. Which is ironic, because I'm definitely an architect when it comes to stories.

And, Lost Muse, thank you for the comments. It's always nice to know someone's reading. :)

Quiet Man Cometh 07-22-2011 02:27 AM

Haiku are organic for me, but most poems are usually a mix. What drives me nuts is when I have, let's say, a growing wildflower that is too small to survive yet and needs some non-organic help. I can leave it be for who knows how long for it to finish on it's own, or I can try to nudge things along. That's where "Post" is right now.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-22-2011 11:01 AM

Should I know what "Post" is? I can't remember anything you showed me or mention with that title.

Suzerain of Sheol 08-04-2011 12:53 AM

This... sounded better in my head. :|

A Private Apophasis


Espy 08-04-2011 03:22 AM

-stares for a few seconds-

Whoa. Nice...er...turnabout there. althoughitcreepsmeout.

Suzerain of Sheol 08-04-2011 08:57 AM

I can't tell if that was a compliment or not. :p

Suzerain of Sheol 09-02-2011 08:51 PM

Aesthete


Suzerain of Sheol 09-04-2011 10:50 PM

Among the Dying Dogwoods


DarkForbidden-Love 09-06-2011 08:06 PM

Wonderful poems but just thought you would like to know that in poems it is gramatically correct to capitalize all beginning letters in a piece of poetry, like below
Is it true?
Is that really what you think of me?
Who I am
Is not your problem
Who I will be
Is not your business
Who I was
Is all you can see?
‘Cause that’s me
That is what I want
You to think
Fooled you all
Had you wrapped around my little finger
‘Cause the girl you knew
Is gone
Kept under lock and key
Because you refused to see the truth
So mask was born
It is the perfect child
Don’t you agree?
But you see
It isn’t me
And one day
I’m going to explode
Going to make a mistake
Then you are going to know the real me
And you are going to be afraid
‘Cause you kept me locked away
-unknown

Poems are one of the few forms of literature that allow you to use incorrect grammar though. I like your poems alot. :)

Quiet Man Cometh 09-06-2011 09:05 PM

Haven't been here in a while. Just read your poem with the Dogwoods. I find it interesting, since dogwoods used to grow along the embankment surrounding my elementary school and I used to walk around them. But, like any of your stuff Sheol, I'll need to read it a few more times before making up my mind on it. ;)

And Love, I've actually been thinking about the capitalization thing lately. I don't think it's considered 'grammatically correct' as much as something that was traditional to do. I was taught in elementary school that the first letter in a line of poetry always had a capital letter, but this seems not to be the case anymore from the more modern poetry I've been reading, especially in poems that otherwise follow normal punctuation between lines.

Suzerain of Sheol 09-06-2011 09:09 PM

Form follows function. >_<

Every line being capitalized is an eyesore to me, it ejects me right out of the poem. It's like seeing a random capital letter mid-sentence. Which, granted, is actually within a poet's purview if it serves some purpose, but that's completely beside the point.

Anyway, I assure you, the lack of capitalization is entirely willful, intentional, and considered on my part. I have precious little respect for formal poetry, anyway.

Quiet Man Cometh 09-06-2011 09:16 PM

Seems it might have been something of a fashion at one point, or something for nitpicky people, like the Oxford comma. I was tought to use that too. ;).

Seems to have fallen out of fashion now, so to speak.

DarkForbidden-Love 09-07-2011 07:54 AM

Sorry I didn't mean to offend you, I guess I;m just used to formal writing styles more than freeverse. My grammer and writing teachers would always yell at my class when we would forget to capatalize the first word of each line intentional or not.


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