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Fallout 76
Anyone geared up for the new fallout 76 game? I wasn't at first cause I am NOT a multi player gamer lol But I'm such a huge fan that im willing to take this L. So is anyone interested in it? |
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*Fan Girls with Espy* Ahem, okay but seriously what do you think? The beta realease is getting closer and im pretty damn excited lol |
So what's funny is, even though I love the FO series, I actually... haven't played that many of the games. I started FO1 and never finished (I restarted it yesterday, and should probably have an easier time of it now that I've dabbled in FO:NV and know more of the lore). And I'm maybe halfway through FO:NV?
I'm kind of worried that it'll end up as just your run-of-the-mill MMO with a Fallout skin, kind of like how ESO's really just a normal MMO with a TES theme to it. |
I haven't even heard of it.
I've played Fallout 4 but pretty much live in TES, but I don't play ESO. Is that subscription based or buy and play? I guess I'll ask the same about Fallout 76 as well. Is there a reason for that number? |
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The lore is really what makes fallout stand out. Atleast for me. Its pretty much its own universe. And yes Im VERY worried what makes fallout unique will be lost to MMO. Like you said it would be just another MMO with a fallout skin. I first Played FO3 and I was HOOKED! I've played and beatin all of them. I have only played Oblivion and Skyrim when it comes to the Elder Scrolls but i love them just as much as FO. Quote:
The '76' comes from the starting place in the game being Vault 76. it is an online only game, which is different than the other games. You will need live for xbox or playstaion network for playstation. Im not sure about pc tho. |
Martian -- I'll check your post tomorrow; sleepy as hell.
Quiet -- ESO is now a one-time purchase like GW2, except I believe there's also premium, which is a sub. |
Is it good enough without premium? That's what annoyed me about SWTOR. Preferred status barely above free to play,
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I'm renting the game through gamefly and getting a 3 month xbox gold live card to check it out. I love the Fallout world and I'm a bit worried that 76' will ruin it... but I am willing to and hopefully will love it like I love the others.
Until then though I am playing a run through of FO3 since it's been a few years since I last played that one. |
I feel EXACTLY the same MacSen. Greifing is my main concern. But they have taken great steps to prevent that so we shall see-hee! |
So I am a massive fallout fan, sinking hundreds upon thousands of hours into the franchise and making multiple characters with multiple different builds and endings and companions etc and I did have 76 pre-ordered. However, I couldn't get access to the beta which kind of irked me a little, like the only stipulation for it was to have pre-ordered the game, and I ordered one of the non-standard editions that included some swanky merch. I had to settle instead for watching other people's reviews and play throughs on youtube. Now I know that obviously taste is a massive thing when it comes to games like these, and while I'm not typically an online gamer I thought it wouldn't be too bad because I enjoyed ESO to some extent, so this would just be the post apocalyptic version right? Well no, I wasn't really getting that vibe from the videos that I was watching. Now I didn't just watch ones from youtubers I liked but I picked a wide variety both with positive and negative spins just so I could try and get an unbiased look at what I could expect. I also know that beta is not the final game, so things like graphical blurps and rendering issues didn't really bother me, it was more the mechanics and the quests and exploration I was interested in. I wasn't feeling any of these things from the videos I watched. I didn't like that a lot of the loot you could find you had to be a certain level to use, especially if you go off the beaten rack and explore somewhere you weren't "meant" to be yet (which in my opinion is how these games are meant to be played, right?). I didn't like the no human NPC thing, because you can quite easily differentiate an NPC from another player, so not including this just seemed a little lazy to me. The random events seemed interesting, but on the flip side I can see them being pretty tiresome after a while. The world looked gorgeous, but I just don't feel like I'd have the same immersion in it as I would your standard Fallout game. Also the day one patch is already 50gb apparently?
Long story short I wasn't impressed and cancelled my pre-order and got Red Dead 2 instead haha! I'll probably still try 76 at some point because I am curious, but I'm not willing to sink that kind of money into a game that feels somewhat empty and unfinished. I'll give it a go when it goes down in price or Bethesda release a patch that basically overhauls the current game (which I doubt). Though if I remember rightly ESO was a mess on release too, so 76 isn't necessarily doomed from the get go~ |
Wow I am SOOOO glad I have someone to talk to about this. So I am also a huge Fallout fan. I have sunk a lot of money into the franchise, I researched all the lore in my spare time. Huge HUGE FAN. I had issues from the very beginning starting with the pre-order that I wont get into. I paid for my game, The tricentennial SlobKnobbery edition, in full. Long story short My beta didn't work either. I had to play through my brothers account. The game felt lackluster and hollow. I was excited and now I'm not. I am struggling with whether or not to cancel my pre-order now. This is a huge let down. |
I feel like 76 is... I don't know... trying to be somewhere between Fortnite and EVE Online. That's a massively ambitious kind of thing, and while I can see that it has the potential to work, it's not the kind of game I want to play for myself, and... well, like I said, that's ambitious. Which is HARD to do right.
The quality of the beta does not improve confidence... |
I'll be honest I cringed when I heard it would be online. I wasn't even gonna buy it, buuuut I LOVE Fallout. I even let myself get excited before more details were released and there were only rumors going around about what it would be. I dont know....I figured factions would for sure be a thing and you could join them and maybe even have faction wars. NOPE. None of that. And thats really only the tip of that iceberg. |
Is it just me, or does anyone else feel like FO76 hasn't spent nearly enough time in development?
Like, I haven't pre-ordered or played the beta or anything, but it's the same feeling that I got with Mass Effect Andromeda. |
76 definitely feels rushed, especially for the type of game that it is. Like I get with online games they're constantly updating just to keep things fresh, but it just doesn't seem like theres enough base content in it to begin with. I think if Bethesda did it right it could have been a very interesting addition to the franchise, though technically I think 76 must be set in a slightly different timeline or whatever because they've tweaked the lore for this game to appeal to the masses rather than keeping it canon? I can't remember exactly what was changed but I'm sure it was something to do with the Brotherhood of Steel.
I'm definitely more of a single player gamer than an online one, but the online aspect didn't put me off initially. It's just now the more I'm seeing the less I'm excited for it. It releases properly tomorrow, so I'm going to try and withhold judgement until I see some actual day one gameplay rather than beta. I think with the beta videos people are holding the game to a much higher standard than they would normally purely because they've had to pre-order to gain access, so I think it will be interesting to see opinions from those that haven't had to make that type of investment. |
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The online aspect didn't put me off in and of itself, but the problem is that it isn't a Fallout game. It's set in the Fallout universe, sure, but it doesn't play like a Fallout game. @Espy: FO76 and ME:A both didn't spend enough time in development, this is true, but in both cases I think there was also a matter of too much ambition, not enough attention to business realities, and a stubborn refusal to pivot to the "let's get this ready to ship" phase in time for launch as a result of the other two. The amount of development time would have been sufficient if they had noticed a few months earlier that they weren't going to hit their deadline and they needed to figure out how to turn what they had into a complete game. |
To be honest I thought that a lot of the hate that ME got was pretty harsh, I don't think it's a terrible game. I didn't enjoy it as much as the original trilogy but I still thought it was pretty fun. Though it did get a little grindy in the middle so I took a break when I was playing and swapped to something else. That being said, it wasn't terrible.
I think with 76 a lot of the interactions and faction creation within the game has to come from roleplay. Since there are no human NPCs you kind of have to adopt these roles yourself. But with the way the perk and skill system works it's really hard to select a specific build because the perks get randomised from what I can tell, which again just makes the whole roleplay aspect a bit harder. Also considering that this kind of content is coming from other people it's kind of hard to gauge what your experiences will be like. For example people that are really into the Fallout universe and embrace the lore of the franchise and everything might get more into the idea of creating characters, where as someone that's just here to run and gun and for the loot won't be putting in that same effort as someone who is looking to play a traditional Fallout. |
It's all a question of standards. ME:A probably would have gone over fine if it had been released in a vacuum -- it might have still had some of the obvious development failures get mocked, but since the core gameplay is basically fine it would have been forgivable.
The problem is that it was MASSIVELY hyped up... and it cost $69.99. People did not get what they expected, nor did they get what they paid for. |
That's a very fair point. I never actually bought it on release, I got it on sale for like £15 so that's probably why I don't really have any gripes about the game. That's also why I'm wanting to wait to play 76, because if I get it cheap enough the possible short comings won't be as much of a sickener to me.
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The thing about the factions is we are assuming alot about people naturally coming together and building these factions on their own. I mean we are talking about a base of people that are use to playing fallout solo. But I do think people will break loose from that familiarity in order to expand and grow in this particular fallout world. Now I did hear that they will be adding factions later on so we will be getting factions eventually accompanied with faction pvp. My main gripe is that I don't want companies thinking its okay to keep sending out half finished games and just patching them up as they go. I'm okay with bugs, i'm okay with imperfection. I am not okay with half-assery and playing victim of 'entitled gamers'. I'm what the industry would call a 'spender' or 'whale'. I will gladly pay good money for good products. But they have to be good. To be called entitled because I have standards in what I will spend my money on is a slap in the face. Nobody said that here, but elsewhere that is the message. |
I think you're right, and I think the people who are used to Fallout as a solo game are going to hold back the grand vision for the game for a LONG time until alliances start to form more organically.
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I absolutely agree. I will admit I 100% did not want an online fallout. But I allowed myself to grow outta that mindset and actually get excited for it. Its an ambitious idea but still a good idea. With that said, Bethesda fumbled this too much to not take notice. I'm gonna follow through with my purchase, but after this I am really gonna take an inward look at myself and change the ways I spend money on video games. I gladly participate in pre-ordering and micro transactions and its becoming evident how negative the impact of these things are in the gaming industry. I know people need to make money, I'm all for it, but there is a limit. And I think we are reaching it. |
I'm fine with preorders in a general sense. I appreciate knowing that my local store is going to have enough copies for me, and in the rare case where prerelease feedback says the game isn't worth buying, I can still cancel it, or I can try it for myself anyway if I think it's still worth a shot.
Microtransactions I'm... cautious about. It really depends on how the game does it and how much of the game you can play without getting nickel-and-dimed to death. |
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I’m a latecomer to the Fallout scene, to be honest, but IMO FO4 isn’t a good Fallout game. It’s a damn good /game/, but it doesn’t feel like Fallout. I was hoping for something like more akin to the Obsidian Fallouts, and since that’s already not a thing, I’ll wait to see if the game is at least /good/. |
Coda - The thing about pre-orders is it puts pressure on a company to stick to release dates even if the game isn't really quite finished yet. However I know there is an easy fix to this somewhere that would be acrimonious to both sides of the table. Espy- Spoiler Alert FO4 wasn't all that great. It looked a bit better than FO:NV, but that was really it. The biggest complaint would be the boring main story. But the Mechanics were almost like a step backward, in my opinion. HOWEVER the DLC was pretty good. Nuka World is awesome and I was excited to play it repeatedly for the different results. I Loved being able to build buuut that system sucked dick more than a little and proved to be quite annoying. SoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoOo Will anyone other than me be playing Fallout 76? Ill be playing on Xbox only. I don't have a good PC to play games on right now. |
I... had no complaints at all about FO4? Admittedly I hadn't played the earlier games so it's entirely possible it's not as good, but it was a perfectly fine game.
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I also think games need to stop adding "DLC" that are features which should have been included in the base game, but that's a completely different argument haha With Fallout 4, I enjoyed it for what it was. In comparison to the earlier games it was lacking in some respects for me. I personally love a lot of the more fun quests or the random events you could get from the wild wasteland perk (like the gang of old ladies in Fallout NV) and I did feel like 4 was missing a lot of the humour the earlier games had. However it did build upon some things and some aspects I really enjoyed. It's probably ranked bottom of the list for me in terms of which Fallout games are my favourites, but it was still something I enjoyed and I got a lot of hours out of. The DLC for Fallout 4 was pretty good though. I hated settlement building though so the contraptions one was a little lost on me haha I'll probably pick up 76 at some point, but no I'm not going to be playing at launch. How are you enjoying it so far, |
I've heard that the 76 beta can't be deleted unless you purchase the game. So, that's pretty bad.
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...Right-click folder, hit delete?
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* can't be conveniently deleted from the launcher.
Plus you have to go to the recycle bin, which takes two clicks, then press another button to get it to delete everything in there. |
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I s2g, gaming communities can be the most entitled, bratty, and toxic groups out there. |
I've started seeing commercials for this game and I have no interest already... It just seems so off and too chat full so I just don't care about it. I don't like online games really, I prefer single player stories.
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I got it last week and started playing with a friend. It is playable solo but just not as fun without having friends to explore the wasteland together. I think that was the whole drive for the game. It mostly reminds me of Fallout4 just add multiplayer xD So I'm pleased with it at least.
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I mean, it's not that hard to program an uninstall button. Unless you're full of idiot programming ideas. Like I am.
(...I've been thinking about making a god-awful ukagaka that's based on Bendy and the Ink Machine because people ask for free shit for some reason.) |
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