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johnny 08-23-2010 03:05 PM

Yeah, poetry is never the first step for writers to get published.

The best bet to get published is to write a one-off novel, or a novel that can be a one-off. Publishing houses don't like dealing with series, short stories, or poetry collections.

Unless you've got a really, really good agent and a really, really good series to sell to the publishing house, they would rather buy something that they can sell and make money from and then later ask you to do a follow-up, or sell and lose money from and try and forget it. Most writers probably have series in mind when they write - trilogies, quartets, indefinite series - but they're usually careful not to mention their story might be part of a series until negotiations are underway and the publisher has pretty much already bought the book. The fact that JK Rowling got away with Harry Potter is actually rather miraculous, considering how wary publishers are of new authors and untested series.

And short story and poetry collections are right out. There's the tiniest chance they'll be published, and an even tinier sliver of that tiny chance that they'll make you any money.

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:08 PM

The biggest company here turned down translating and publishing Harry Potter. A very small company did instead and thanks to that they are still alive. That big company said it would "never" become big. Well they are stupid.

Sadrain 08-23-2010 03:11 PM

Yeah, you're right about publishing, Plushie. >o<;

johnny 08-23-2010 03:14 PM

lmao.

That's a bit like all the people way back when who said computers would never amount to anything important.

Makes you wonder what else people scoff at these days that, in the future, are going to be huge.

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:15 PM

They also said Internet was a "fad". lul

Sadrain 08-23-2010 03:16 PM

lmao. XD
nbrb to eat.

johnny 08-23-2010 03:18 PM

People are funnny. :B

I think some people still say the internet is a "fad".

Seriously, it's like... what civilization revolves around now, and people actually still think it'll eventually die off.

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:20 PM

Those people are most likely too old and have never gotten into it, never had a work that needs it. They are the ones that will die off.

Flaria 08-23-2010 03:24 PM

I don't believe that, Yuki. Not really. Just that to some people, just that computers aren't worth their times. Since they are too busy for lives or rather not be in it.

And HI!

johnny 08-23-2010 03:24 PM

I do have hope that the "digital media" deal will die off.

I. DO. NOT. LIKE. DIGITAL. MEDIA.

I hate e-readers, I hate e-albums, I hate e-movies. I hate e-games. If I'm paying money for that sort of thing, I want to hold it in my hand, not have exist on some other plane of e-xistance.

It's one thing to have a physical copy of something and then copy it into .mp3 format for your music player, it's something else entirely to only buy the digital version. I find that completely idiotic and detrimental to our society's posterity. Most of what we know about past civilization is what exists in physical form - pots, paintings, books, etc. If everything is digital, we're just going to be a black hole in history.

...

that was a rant, and I'm sorry. I just really hate that shit. D<

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:29 PM

I'm talking about people that says "internet should be shut down". Thanks for making me feel like I have no life. <_<;

I agree with johnny though, I like books in paper.

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:33 PM

Well duh there are bad things with the internet such as gore and weird porn but it is possible to stop that and they are working on it. :B At least some of thee porn. You know which one.

Flaria 08-23-2010 03:33 PM

Well, thinking about saving trees. We need good amount of oxygen that trees produce. If we take the all the things we normally read that people are able to do when they don't have the money to buy them in the store. I think, it is good to have e-medias in case. I don't like it when people kept wasting papers. They are everywhere. Of course, everyday, we all wasting trees. Johnny. That's why in the future we don't have trees because we use too much and lack of proper oxygen.

Don't get me wrong. I love papers too but just that I also love computer games and all.

Yuki 08-23-2010 03:35 PM

You can recycle old books and newspapers for new books. :v But I know what you're trying to say. I still want the option of paper books. Cause I don't pay for digital books.

johnny 08-23-2010 03:37 PM

Yes! Books should be on paper!

They have been on paper for thousands of years.

Paper is good, people!

Some might argue, "Well, they wrote on stone before paper was invented," but there is a big difference between stone-to-paper and paper-to-computer chip. For one, the paper was much easier to write on, transport, store, etc. than the stone - and now someone says that the computer chip can store lots of books so it makes it even better for transport. Frankly, the whole argument stops with "I once took my e-reader to the beach and got sand in it and lost my entire library."

If sand can take something down, it's not a worthwhile invention. I have books in my attic that have survived Florida heat and humidity for about forty years. Guarantee you an e-reader would last about a week in my attic before becoming little more than a rectangular paperweight.

PAPER IS WHAT BOOKS ARE MADE OF. D<

AceValkyrie 08-23-2010 03:39 PM

*runs around crying* that was horrible! ):


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