It can be it depends on where you come from or what you have been through. A lot of the people who have passed away in my life have been around 50-60 so middle aged to me is 30-40

Me neither, 30 is very young.

Fenris@ Most men in my family has only died young becuase of illness and accidents. But all women has died around 80-90. The men could have lived that long if they weren't stupid.

My grandma's half sister who lived in the US became 93. :0

I have lost 8 people in my life. Only 2 of them were over the age of 55, one was 78 and the other was 81. The youngest I have lost was 39. So I have an odd view of middle-aged.

That's sad. :/ One of my uncles hung himself, he was stupid. He had wife and kids. Nobody knows why. They assume he had some secrets of some sorts. Was nearly 40 I think...

Well, my grandma died when she was 82, my dad when he was over 65 (I am late child for both of my parents) and, well, those are my only close relatives I can mention. I suppose I look at it more from the maturity aspect than other stuff.

Yeah it is....I gotta go for a bit guys. I'll be back later.

Yeah, sometimes stuff like that happens. There was this musician in Latvia, a really really good one, a happy person who had good life and had good relationships with everyone. And one day, before concert, he calls he will be there right away, doesn't arrive and is later found out having hung him self... no one found out. There was no sign anything at all is going wrong.

Bye Fenris. -hugs-

It's stupid...if you hate your life so much then change it. I have actually kept 3 people from not killing themselves. I sat with them thee whole night sometimes even if I had to go to school. I did whatever it took to get them on other thoughts. People say you can't do anything but that's wrong. If they do start to talk about such things you should do whatever you can. I have no idea about my uncle though. Guess he didn't have anyone he could trust talking about it. Weird but yeah..

Depending on the family member.. my diabetic triple bypassed surgery grandpa is still alive mid 60s, his mom and grandma died in their 80s or 90s, both with cancer though.

No clue about my father's side though.

Yes. I have had to talk with some of my friends, too, who were the brink on such thoughts. I... couldn't just leave them there like that. If anything ever happened to them afterwards, I would have surely faulted my self. It's horrible to see someone in such state, that pain often is just so familiar, and I try to help, if only I can.
There was this one person who was just drama queen, ranting how she cuts her self and stuff, and enjoying how everyone practically begs to stop and talk and change something. I believed for a long time, too, and it hurt me a lot, but there was this and that showed it wasn't true eventually.

But when you're in a state like this, it's very important that there is someone to talk it out with. Even if you don't believe it at first, don't listen, it sinks in slowly and leaves marks that help. I know because while I haven't actually blatantly told anyone I am about to go and kill my self, I have ranted and screamed online, cried at my computer when I couldn't go on anymore and thought it would all be easier if I put and end to it, that no one really cares anyways. I am still here because there were people who listened, who got down to the root of the problem without me even sometimes talking it all out, and because of my mom.

Ugh I just can't look at people who cut themselves, it's gross. I can't look at their freaking arms without feeling pain. Fortunately I have only meet one of those. The scars creeps me out.

Aaah Mene I got surprisingly rich there on accident C: