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Coda 08-11-2011 12:25 PM

Yes, jewels, but it'll be cheaper than the items that are up there now. I'm actually going to put them up for preorder in the next couple of days so you can start buying them; the bundles just won't unpack until the items are done.

Alexander Linden 08-11-2011 12:26 PM

This is exciting! xD

Fey 08-11-2011 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sadrain (Post 862290)
I honestly don't see why you force people to fight so much for them to even get one set of items (due to 240+ jewels needed for one set). While they battle, they most likely will NOT post, and that doesn't add to site's activity at all.

O.o really? I post and fight at the same time, I don't find it any more difficult than IMing and posting really.

and I'm glad I saw this post about mroe stuff coming out...I shall save the jewels I have and be prepared!

Sadrain 08-11-2011 12:51 PM

Well, if I fight, I battle equally on 3 accounts at the same time, with resized windows, because waiting for one account battle takes so long, so, in the end, there is not much else I can do, and even when there is just one window, and another for chatting, it still takes lot of attention. Not everyone is such a great multitasker.

Coda 08-11-2011 12:55 PM

Most people don't do that, though. The stats show we DO have more people active and posting, so it seems most people do a battle, go post during the cooldown, and then go battle again, rather than trying to juggle between multiple battle accounts.

Sadrain 08-11-2011 01:01 PM

But still, it s a little overboard - over 500 battles for one set of items?
And in this limited time? You guys really don't know how to balance things out - either you go overboard on one end, or at the other. But that is just my opinion, and as such, I express it.

EDIT: What I mean is... Fighting is nice and all, but it is not fun when it is turned into a work. Where I have to work hard and restlessly to gain an event set or two.

Coda 08-11-2011 01:10 PM

Purchase history seems to bear out that we were right in balancing it this way. Lots of people have full sets of jewel items now, some people even have multiples. They're more rare than previous sets, but that is exactly the intent. Overall we actually haven't had all that many complaints -- mostly a handful of hoarders that are upset that they can't get multiple sets to have both items for personal use and items for later sale. That's okay with us. These are items we expect to rise in price quickly after the event ends. That's okay with us.

We're seeing more sustained activity with this event than we've seen with any event in the past, and it isn't trailing off like the Taskal War did. I interpret this as meaning that people care enough about these items enough to keep trying for them even though they're harder to get. People aren't seeing the costs and giving up; people are seeing the costs and working to achieve them. This was exactly the effect we were hoping for.

In other words, the reality of what's actually happened is showing that we were right about doing things this way, because it's going exactly according to plan.

Fey 08-11-2011 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sadrain (Post 862383)
But still, it s a little overboard - over 500 battles for one set of items?

Actually, if you're good at keeping track it could take as few as 300 battles for a full set, and you yourself haven't even fought 500 battles according to the leaderboard.... I've fought twice that many and have had enough for three full sets.

I've actually enjoyed this fight system, and I hope to see it in future events :)

Sadrain 08-11-2011 01:27 PM

I've battled on 3 accounts. Add Shadow Mask's and Dream of Dusk's battles, too.
And let's just count 240 + 240 is 440. And you don't get jewel every other battle. Okay, you get one every 3 battles, let's assume, and earn 140 crystals from posting per set. Or even all. But even then, it will take at least 400 battles to get full set, including jewel.

Coda 08-11-2011 02:03 PM

400 battles can be achieved with one hour of play per day over three weeks. (We had actually balanced it towards two weeks based on an estimate of a 50% win ratio for the average player, but we also knew the event would be longer than two weeks.)

Ashurato 08-11-2011 06:01 PM

So it's only the jewels we have to worry about keeping some of, right Coda?

Coda 08-11-2011 06:41 PM

I think so? Not completely sure.

Ginger 08-12-2011 12:28 AM

I am wondering if jewels are going to get a tiny bit easier to get in posts? I have been noticing them a little more often in posts, but if they don't show up a little more often I'm not going to be too worried over it. I'm just gonna save whatever jewels I get within the next couple of days.

Thank you for giving us a heads up ^^

Yokuutsu 08-12-2011 12:52 AM

There's....going to be more items that cost jewels?

Is that what I'm hearing?

If so, I give...because I have a full jewel set...and I only have 10 jewels. I'm only doing posting now...due to that fact I lose every battle...some due to inactivity (due to it taking 4 mins to find a battle) or just luck.

So if there really are going to be more jewel items...I won't be getting them then >_<

Mr. Chompsalot 08-12-2011 09:34 AM

so basically all of my sets will be given away instead of sold^^: shame, i was hoping they'd be worth something to sell

Coda 08-12-2011 10:14 AM

I don't know what you're talking about, chocochunks. The rarity of these items should make them very valuable for sale.

Echo-chan713 08-12-2011 07:17 PM

Their going to be rare 0_0

Angel Spirit Girl 08-13-2011 07:58 AM

Actually, I get a book to read during the event because battling is so dull and long.

It does not pay to post here since you almost never get jewels.

Coda 08-13-2011 09:54 AM

It only doesn't pay if jewels are the only thing you care about. Remember that you're still earning aurum for posting, and of course there's value in just having a good time and talking to people.

The main reason we didn't make it easier to earn jewels by posting is because we wanted people to use the battle system -- the battle system is more interesting and more playable when there are more people participating. If people feel that battling isn't a good use of time because there are better ways of getting what they want, that makes battling less fun for others, which causes them to have less interest in battling. It's a spiral.

Angel Spirit Girl 08-13-2011 10:56 AM

It just feels more interactive to chat.

Coda 08-13-2011 11:07 AM

And you're not wrong to feel that way. That's one reason we offer contests that reward jewels. We try to offer multiple different ways to get what you want in order to appeal to different kinds of people. Some people prefer to battle because they don't like posting a lot.

Yokuutsu 08-13-2011 01:50 PM

Yeah, but what if continuously...you don't get battle for 4+ minutes no matter what you do....so when you do finally get one, you lose due to picking nothing?

The battle system is useless to me for getting jewels. So....since they're rare in posting I won't get these new items and I will not buy them either. I hope they're nothing I like.

Coda 08-13-2011 02:52 PM

If you're not getting into battles until you encounter an NPC, try playing at a different time of day if possible. You might also try using a mule in the other faction to see if there are people to fight that would otherwise be on your side.

Many people have pointed out that the best way to not miss battles is to have it open in another window, resized down so you can watch it while you do other things.

Suzerain of Sheol 08-13-2011 02:54 PM

If you have windows 7, the snap feature is useful for it, as well.

Coda 08-13-2011 02:55 PM

Also consider entering the contests. Those are there to give you another non-combat way of earning jewels.

Yokuutsu 08-13-2011 04:34 PM

Something is eating up my CPU...think it is flash....or shockwave (plug in container) so opening another window would probably be bad. I had multiple tabs open....doing one with battles one to chat. That's where my inactivity came from. Otherwise I would have been mindlessly staring at the screen until I finally got a battle lol

And I've played at all times of the day....since I don't have a job....and the semester has started yet....I'm essentially on from when I get up until I go to bed. -has no life whatsoever-

Sora 08-14-2011 05:19 AM

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ts/2j1qtxs.png


Does anybody know when the end date of the second part of the event is?


http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...keyblade-1.png

Yokuutsu 08-17-2011 12:15 AM

No clue whatsoever....I've also been wondering about that.

Rosekitten 08-17-2011 09:33 PM

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...eaves2-1-1.gif


is it true that theres suppose to be another set of items releases? ~tats what i heard somewhere in the woodwork~ o.o;


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ves2-1-1-1.gif

Coda 08-17-2011 11:33 PM

Yeah, we're running behind schedule due to RL issues. Sorry about that.

Rosekitten 08-17-2011 11:37 PM

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...eaves2-1-1.gif


oh no you don't have to be sorry I was just curious is all ^.^ life's more important by far no matter who you are on this site.


http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c5...ves2-1-1-1.gif

Lunaryon 08-18-2011 09:34 PM

Hello everybody! How are all of you today?...

Yokuutsu 08-18-2011 10:29 PM

My teeth feel weird....but I had all of my wisdom teeth cut/pulled/whatever....I wasn't awake for it so IDK....earlier this week.

How are you?

Lunaryon 08-18-2011 11:49 PM

That doesn't sound like much fun...

Ginger 08-19-2011 12:06 AM

Yokuutsu - I also wasn't awake when I had my wisdom teeth pulled. I was so out of it when I came out of it lol. Everything seemed really slow-paced.

Lunaryon 08-19-2011 12:08 AM

Hello there Ginger! How are you?

Sora 08-19-2011 06:53 AM

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...ts/2j1qtxs.png


Woah, there's going to be a third set of items being released for this event? o.o


http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/z...keyblade-1.png

Lunaryon 08-19-2011 10:39 AM

I can't wait to see how Braen looks.

Ginger 08-19-2011 01:35 PM

Hey Lunaryon ^-^ I'm doing good today! I woke up to hashbrowns from McDonald's so I happy lol. How are you?

Lunaryon 08-19-2011 01:38 PM

Yumm. That sounds good. I am relaxing and trying my best not to think. Espcially since I just fixed my College money problems...


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