FINALLY. >_< I used Experience of a Lifetime for a stamina refill and I STILL had to burn ALL of my stamina (twice!) before a Dragon Fruit dropped.

Ineed green jewels ono

thought you were done with golds xD

I was, and then Sun Wukong's uvo came out. :P

xD poor coda

ugh i still need 13levels on scheat 3:< hate max leveling mons.. the final 10 take forever

HOLY CRAP.

FIVE TPAs?! But only 653 ATK... Give that girl some +eggs!

I ended up getting a red jewel from the pal egg machine. Almost got a dark jewel from a challenge dungeon but missed a combo and lost at the end. (Bye bye precious dark jewel.)

Coda CODA! it is TOO AND.. not OR for BOdin's Leader skill! OnO

http://i.imgur.com/VVrX0Ql.png

Take a look at this team.

http://i.imgur.com/3QlzzAe.png

Its HP with out BOdin's Leader Skill is 25,343
if you take that and multiply it by 1.5 you only get 38014.5.. and I know that my Odin's team HP is in the 50ks when I play. so times 38014.5 by another 1.5 and you get 57021.75 (it gets rounded down to 57020)

so basically since gods on the team get 1.5xHP and water gets 1.5HP .. thats 1.5 x 1.5 = 2.25! o3o

(2BOdins the skills don't overlap so i'ts just using 1Bodin's LS)

Wait wait wait whaaaaaat??

I thought that number included the boost from a friend?

After 2+ years of playing PAD, I'm pretty sure that leader skills like Blue Odin's (certain Greek 2.0 uvos, super uvo Valkyries, Red Odin, certain Norse uvos, etc) only apply to one or the other. They would have put a semicolon if the HP boost applied twice (e.g. Shiva Dragon has a semicolon between the 2x fire attack and 2.5x god attack and rcv parts of the leader skill).

Blue Odin's leader skill will not apply twice by himself; when you're playing, you play with a friend's Blue Odin, right? The leader skill applies once from your Blue Odin and once from your friend's Blue Odin. A blue god on your team will get 1.5x hp from your Blue Odin and 1.5x hp from a friend's Blue Odin, NOT 2.25x from your Blue Odin and 2.25x from a friend's Blue Odin.

If it's not like that, then everything I knew about leader skills has been destroyed...

"2BOdins the skills don't overlap so i'ts just using 1Bodin's LS"

I don't understand this at all. If I try to understand this, then this statement is false. 0.0 Leader skills absolutely apply twice in the game. It's also like this for PADHerder, or else my XQ/XQ teams would not show 28k HP on PADHerder (plus it just doesn't make sense for the HP multiplier from a friend to not be included).

You can test this by going in to a dungeon with only your Blue Odin (no friend! You can go to Challenge Mode for normals/techincals and choose 0 friends) and seeing what the HP is. Then do it again but with a friend's Blue Odin (regular mode).

I just played with a Divinized Archangel, Gabriel, and my HP went even higher... oxo

I hit over 70kHP with BOdin and Gabriel.


Going in with challenge mode, won't be using my team which would kinda ruin the test. o3o

I can't find the button for me to enter with out a friend leader. ono

But I think your right.. Ignore me guys Dx

23,380 x 1.5 x 2 = the 70kHP..

So my PAD life hasn't collapsed after all LOL

I meant that you can go to Challenge Mode and then don't pick any friends ^^ You're allowed to pick 0 friends when you do Challenge Mode. I just entered a 2-stamina Normal dungeon with only my own leader.

Challenge mode needs me to make a team using friend leaders.

so my odin would be all alone if I did that and thus wouldn't help at all.

I need more Gabby friends D:< I want that 70k HP!

Yes, the text says "&". I was referring to the implementation on the inside. It says "any monsters that satisfy this condition get this bonus" and it only says that once. Shiva Dragon says that twice.

I still say they should use 'Or' instead of &... >.>

"you may bring julie & bobby... but you have to choose one" =w=

OuO i'm doing good in the Descend challenge! I finished these:

- Kanetsugu!-All Att. Req. (Mythical)...Jewel of Light
- Athena Descended (Mythical)...Jewel of Wood
- The Goddess Descended! (Mythical)...Jewel of Water
- Zeus Descended! (Mythical)...Jewel of Fire
- Great Tengu Descended! (Legend)...Snow Globe Dragon Bleu Lv50
- The Thief Descended! (Legend)...PreDRA
- Dragon Zombie Descended!-Dragons Only (Legend)...TAMADRA (HP +6, ATK +6, RCV +6)
- Hera Descended! (Legend)...6,000 Pal Points
- Hero Descended! (Legend)...6,000,000 Coins

I don't know... I mean, the text was pretty clear to me when I first read it. I didn't even realize that people could get confused over it lol

"1.5x HP and 2.5x attack for water attribute and God type" = "water attribute and God type monsters get 1.5x HP and 2.5x attack"--the worst misunderstandings I can see: 1) to read a nonexistent "respectively", and 2) to think that monsters must be BOTH water attribute and God type in order to get the stat boosts; after 2+ years, I still cannot figure out how to interpret that line to get a misunderstanding that the stat boosts would apply twice... I've been picking apart the English and I still can't figure it out??? What am I missing?

Saying "water attribute or God type" would definitely help, though

To me its like saying

"You can have Johnny & Bert come along"

but then you find out that you had to choose between the two.

Now saying "You can have Johnny or Bert come along" ..

I can also see people thinking that the mon had to be a Water God to get the boost. not water or god.

I'm looking at my Awoken Deity Odin and his leader skill says:
"2.5x ATK & 1.5 HP for Water Att. & God type."

I'm reading that as 2.5 Atk and 1.5 HP for Water Attributes monsters and for god monsters, but when reading it I think they are applied separately and stack, so if something is water or god type it gets it once but then gets applied again if its a water god type since water is not a type but an attribute.

@Demonskid I'm not quite understanding your analogy, because "You can have Johnny & Bert come along" and "You can have Johnny or Bert come along" mean the same thing to me in English (although they mean different things in pseudocode) 0__o and I don't really see how it's like choosing?? It's not like water gods don't get the boost at all, which is what I thought you meant at first with your analogy but is not the message I got from your example Johnny/Bert sentence??? I'm so confused lol

I have no idea anymore lol I'm trying to understand but I still don't get it

& is and therefor means both

'Or' is well.. Or.. therefor its one 'or' the other.. I don't see how 'And' means 'or' in this place xD

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Sally AND Beth please go to the market (Both go)

Sally or Beth, please go to the market (One goes)

And and Or are TWO seriously separate things. the symbol & means 'and'

DK & Candy get a prize

DK or Candy get a prize

the first one they both get a prize. DK gets a Prize and Candy gets a prize. Second one, only one of them get a prize.

Water & God get 1.5ATK

Water or God get 1.5ATK

o3o just like DK & Candy both get a prize, we tend to see the odin skill giving water types a boost and god types a boost.

2 prizes were handed out. there for 2 boosts are handed out.. o3o

where DK or Candy get a prize.. 1 prize is handed out, 1 boost is handed out...

"All club members and all children can have a piece of candy."

If a child is a member, they still only get one.

So that would mean which gets priority then? In the term of boosts because I think I've seen something where the two types might have different multipliers, or am I remembering that incorrectly? I can't remember which monster it is but it might be one I have.

If the two types have DIFFERENT modifiers, then they STACK.

Shiva Dragon's text is "Fire attribute cards ATK x2. God type cards ATK x2.5, RCV x1.5."

Fire Gods therefore get 5xATK 1.5xRCV.

See the reason Shiva Dragon states that both fire and god both get the boost and that its clear they do is because the boosts are different

Fire gets x2 where god gets x2.5

thats why its clear on him. o3o i bet if it were the same amount it would be similar to Odin's wording

If they wanted it to be a total of 4x ATK, then they would have kept it as two separate sentences.

Does anyone have a Divinized Archangel, Gabriel?

o3o i'm trying to run the beelzebub thing in the descend challenge. I'd get so far and then something happens. either that count down dude gets me, or Amon gets me... Dx

Or i get lucky and make it to beel but he does a full screen poison but to get to him i had to use Scheat D:<

Bring someone who has a whole-board replace (Sonia for example).

tried that. ono still couldn't beat the dungeon >n<

Sorry DK, I only have Michael, not Gabriel. ^^;

What team are you using?

gyaa i need gabby xD

my odin team

i've tried each of my switches (Angel, okuni and shiva)

I've tried Ammy team, and my Umi team Dx

With English, the meaning of the word "and" really depends on context xD sometimes I wish natural languages were as straightforward as constructed languages, but at the same time I like seeing all of the complicated stuff about natural languages lol

"You can have Johnny & Bert come along"--I hear stuff like this a lot in situations with group outings, playdates, etc. and usually it's a parent or other authority figure giving the green light to include people in a group

"Oh yeah, your brother and your sister can come with us to the movies, no problem!"
"Oh, someone invited my sister to a birthday party, so she's not gonna come with us. But I still have to take my brother along."
the response is most likely not "Nope, he can't come along because if your sister isn't coming, then neither will your brother" xD

not really an appropriate analogy anyway since person 1 and person 2 are two separate people and have no overlap (probably); Coda's analogy is much more appropriate

I wish I could help, but I just blow most stuff up with AYomi ahaha... although sometimes I switch to ABastet or Sumire for variety and I like being able to farm Kanetsugu with XQ xD

I have a hypermax Andromeda if you want it? Also Skuld (missing her last two awakenings and level 82), Blodin, Sumire max skill, unawoken Awoken Karin (lol), Reine, physical summer Urd level 81? No idea if any of those will help; just tossing up the blue leads that I can lol

(Message me in-game if you really want any of those; I'll see it sooner than I'd see a reply here haha)

Illu lent me Ryune

took me like 50 tries. kept getting invades which messed up my pace and bad skyfalls

I now has BEELZEBUB! -runs around with her new egg-

The RVC of Ryune in my team kinda sucked xD i was freaking out near the end thinking I'd die again because the heals were so low

Solution to your problem:

Roll I&I or Ryune
edit: Oh and she up

I still like Gabby better o3o

Okay, there. I've got Zeal, Verche, and Voice reincarnated, Sun Wukong and Gadius uvo'ed... Just need one more Devilit to do Zuoh (and today's Friday!) -- I just about have all of the new evolutions done. XD Then I need to go back and work on Hera-Ur and Zeus Vulcan in order to evolve Gainaut... that's going to be a pain. :/

o3o go coda go!

I have max leveled Valk and Athena and goemon! ouo

I forgot I have Gaia, who has a new uvo now, but she's completely unleveled. ^^() Going to need a LOT of emerald dragons before I even worry about it. And Zeal has priority on those for now.

o3o good luck with that!

I'm slowly working on leveling and evo'ing the ones i have. I'm saving my gems for Japanese series 1 god fest. I want Orochi 3:<

Login day 347 x3

I leveled my main dragon again, only 2 more evolutions =3

I think i have more green mons to level and evo than anything else >o<

One more day and I'll have reached 100 monster slots also =P