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Suzerain of Sheol 12-14-2015 04:56 AM

Wow, I don't think I've ever killed someone with a poem before. I don't know if I should be honored or horrified.

Espy 12-14-2015 04:59 AM

por que no los dos :|

Suzerain of Sheol 02-10-2016 05:37 AM

Nihilism? Check. Space and God imagery? Check. Overly-long, pretentious, incomprehensible musing on the zero-sum of human existence? Check, check, and triple check.

Oh, look. It's a Suze poem.

Confusing the Psychopomp


Suzerain of Sheol 02-29-2016 09:34 PM

"Let's try to write a prose poem! There's no way that could possibly go wrong!"

Every Third Star {M}


Quiet Man Cometh 03-11-2016 01:26 AM

So shared our little poetic exchange at my last poetry meeting. Two people seemed to find it fascinating. I may have broken the other two.

Espy 03-12-2016 09:45 PM

Is...is that good, or bad? (I initially typed that as "good, or good", and then went "....wait a second.")

Quiet Man Cometh 03-13-2016 12:24 AM

If there's no more mystery to misery, Suze, that's because you've turned it into a fine art.

Espy 03-13-2016 12:27 AM

Who says fine arts can't have a healthy dose of mystery :|

Suzerain of Sheol 03-13-2016 02:28 PM

Our crushing march toward the singularity, obviously, Espy. Soon, the sublime and the numinous will be laid bare for the meager, mechanical formulae they are. Let the delusions born of ephemeral qualia be cast asunder! Let us behold, stark and austere, the pitiless truth of the cosmos! Not a change of state, but merely one of perspective. We are not who we think we are.

NIHIL COGITAT, NIHIL EST!

Espy 03-13-2016 03:46 PM

....I may have had the sudden mental image of Tsae, Cel, Skaeye, and Mercille as the four horsemen...

Suzerain of Sheol 03-13-2016 06:56 PM

You have odd thoughts :P

(but you should totally draw that)

Suzerain of Sheol 06-19-2016 07:48 PM

Hostis Humani Generis


Espy 06-19-2016 07:57 PM

Had to read it over a few times before the first two stanzas really connected with the rest. (I really like the fourth full stanza <.<;; As well as the first two.)

...

Cripes, why is this one so easy to relate to.

Suzerain of Sheol 06-19-2016 08:31 PM

That is a very good question, Espy. :P

Quiet Man Cometh 06-20-2016 01:45 AM

Post post post post, posty post post.

Post.

Who are we relating to? The poet, the surgeon, or the narrator abortion priest?

Suzerain of Sheol 06-20-2016 01:47 AM

Well I personally relate to all three, but then, I wrote the thing....

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 12:37 AM

Acedia


Quiet Man Cometh 07-21-2016 02:45 AM

I like this part here:

"twisting the abyss
wounding the universe
signing a death sentence with a mother's kiss

Someone else will bury them."

I like the little solo lines you've been adding lately, and can't help but note that parentheses seems to be replacing your ellipses. ;)

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 03:27 AM

Oh get out of here, this poem is terrible and that's the worst part! :P

But no seriously, this poem is my worst in a while.

Quiet Man Cometh 07-21-2016 03:39 AM

well maybe that "mother's kiss" part I'm not sure about, but I do like internal rhyming and such.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 02:14 PM

It's all tripe. Hate it hate it hate it. Though I guess the rhyming came out all right.

Suzerain of Sheol 12-08-2016 10:21 PM

Agathós Daímōn


Quiet Man Cometh 12-09-2016 12:36 AM

Is there something in the title I'm missing? Google finds "Agathodaemon" but I'm not sure if that's what you are referring to, here.

As usual, you have that wonderful, blunt, face-punch line at the end. :)

Suzerain of Sheol 12-09-2016 12:38 AM

Yes, that is the same term.

That line almost feels like a caricature of my usual tendency, not sure I'm sold on it. But, I am rather happy with the last three stanzas before it.

Quiet Man Cometh 12-09-2016 01:15 AM

I think the last line works quite well, but I fond of that trait.

I'm not sure I'm following the old god's details you have going in the middle of the poem. Sort of like they are unwilling participants in humanity's construction of something... not really sure. A divine authority to play... master?

Suzerain of Sheol 12-09-2016 02:44 AM

The opposite, actually. As though these incarnations of evil could not conceive and would want no part of the disastrous disgrace being described in the poem, thus making it something uniquely human and uniquely horrible.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 12:00 AM

Platonic Hate


Quiet Man Cometh 02-14-2017 04:09 AM

Okay so I read that as "Syphilis" at first, yet I still had the image of the guy and his rock. Good line, though.

I'm sitting here wondering what constitutes a "solipsistic mind game." Unless, that is the totality of conscious thought and the life that we think we lead through it.

I'm rolling those last few lines around in my head, trying to get an image of the fetus and what's happening to it, metaphorically speaking. I think I have a very good idea of what's actually going on in a literal fashion. Ew.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 04:11 AM

*ahem*

Quote:

That enamoring and solipsistic mind-crime
And as for the last line, considering I don't believe in the existence of the soul... take that as you will. :/

Quiet Man Cometh 02-14-2017 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzerain of Sheol (Post 1756952)
*ahem*



And as for the last line, considering I don't believe in the existence of the soul... take that as you will. :/

Well...I guess in some ways the statement remains the same.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 04:22 AM

Well, "mind-crime" is a term coined by Nick Bostrom in his book, Superintelligence, as one of the "malignant failure modes" an AI can develop; in this case, it represents the simulation of immoral or unethical behavior in the 'mind' of the AI, such that it is indistinguishable experientially from the actual committing of the act.

It can also describe the actions of humans performed on non-sentient but in every other regard, human-seeming machines/robots. I.e. if you have a torture orgy with your robots, just because they can't experience what you're doing to them, the act for you is completely unable to be parsed from reality (assuming total simulation of human reaction from this brain-dead machine.)

That then gets into the concept of Philosophy Zombies, an old thought experiment to outline solipsism, i.e. 'What if I am the only conscious mind and everyone else merely acts as though they were, but has no internal awareness?'

So, I would hope that gives some insight into that choice of phrase? :P

Quiet Man Cometh 02-20-2017 05:00 AM

I'm going to have to go back and read the poem again when I'm more awake, but I think I've got "mind-crime" down.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-07-2017 06:30 PM

On Earth As It Is In Heaven


Quiet Man Cometh 07-08-2017 12:52 AM

Took me three stanzas to decide you had a rhyme scheme going. Not sure I'm all that fond of it. It's different for you.

I notice this running theme of things, elevated things, being beaten into existence. I had a thought, but now I'm not sure. I was about to ask what came first: the essence beaten into shape or the thing that is attempting to forge it, but now I'm stuck on the nature of the "thing" and I may have gone and confused myself. I wish that sounded more academic. Give me a minute...


Quote:

infant omniscience balanced on a needle
And is this a reference to the angels on the head of a pin?

Espy 07-08-2017 01:29 AM

The last couple stanzas made me...uncomfortable. ...I'm also having a weird semi-shitty day, so that might have contributed. Agreeing w Quiet on the rhyme scheme. It's a bit odd and sometimes feels forced.

....also the title might have made me giggle a bit, having gone to catholic high and all.

Gallagher 07-08-2017 01:31 AM

that's not a rhyme scheme, that's a joke

Espy 07-08-2017 01:32 AM

Well, ouch.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-08-2017 01:37 AM

https://pics.onsizzle.com/anxiety-ev...a-16268954.png

Gallagher 07-08-2017 01:43 AM

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...14830678a8.png

Quiet Man Cometh 07-08-2017 01:44 AM

I can't find the picture. Assume there's a tiny dog here beneath a giant depression rock that is thinly propped up by memes and video games.


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