Nah, you're not my type.

Yuki: Still, everyone has fantasies and fetishes, it's perfectly natural, and it's a general problem that teenage girls wants "badass" guys whether they be real or fiction
It's a way of provocating your parents, which we all know teenagers like to do..

Sephy likes his spiky blondies. :v

*blinks* I totally just missed something...

Okay. Well I'm off to work now. Later Gators. 8D

I'd just use the invulnerability or "rapid healing" to do more daredevil stuff, like skydiving without a parasuit. >_> Vampires would have to be cautious of random twigs. :P

I'm not cautious of random twigs...
Vampires can still take more hits than a normal human... >.<

I dislike Twilight for the actual content of the books, not the fangirls and not the anti-fans.

I have actually read the books, and seen the movies (granted, I saw the movies with the Rifftrax commentary over them, but it still counts). Just like anyone who criticizes anything else - movies, literature, television shows - I'm allowed to state the faults I have with the books and why I, in particular, don't like them.

And the fact of the matter is, I don't like them because they're dangerous. I can only imagine all the little girls getting into abusive relationships and thinking that the abuse is love, because it's "just like Edward and Bella". I'm allowed to have the books, and hate that people like the books, for that reason.

That's not what I said. I'm not actually disturbing their little discussions or telling them what to do. It's just funny, like the kids in England who jumped out the window with brooms.

Also I hate vampires from stuff like Blade and the likes more
Totally nothing aristocratic about those
Besides according to old folklore vampires could easily breed, their children was called dhampires and had the ability to recognize a vampire and kill it because they were born with a hate towards their father/mother for giving them such a cursed existence

Johnny: That would have nothing to do with reading a book "Books are dangerous" is something religious freaks say.
It's how you raise your kids
Seriously I've read all the Twilight books, actually liked them, and I could not DREAM to get into a relationship with someone abusive!
If you teach your children to say no to violence and to be strong, there's really no problem with them reading anything.

Johnny - I only watched the movies with the Rifftrack commentaries too >.>

I find the generalization that all girls want "badasses" or "bad boys" super irritating.

I'm sorry, I don't freaking want a guy who's mean to me. Ever. It's not "hot", it's mean.

Also, I've never done anything specifically to piss off my parents. I love my parents. They created me. Why on earth would I want to anger them?

"Is it a complete sentence? .... No! Just a massive pause."

xD I want to watch them again now.

Johnny - I kinda like the idea of a guy being "tough", but at the same time a nice guy... but I'm not gonna date someone that's mean or abusive... >.<


I love riff tracks...

I will not tolerate someone being mean to me, ever.

Protective, maybe. A guy who wants to go punch someone in the face for making me cry? That's endearing. A guy that tells me I can't see my friends because "they might be dangerous" and removes the engine from my car so I'm trapped at my house? That's freakin' insane, and I'm taking the bus home.

I don't tolerate jealousy, rudeness, controlling behavior, a dislike of my friends or family, or pretty much anything that makes me feel bad from someone I'm supposed to love/share part of my life with.

Maybe that's why I've never been in a relationship. xD

Johnny: I didn't say every girl, I said teenage girls, and apparently you then have no idea what puberty means?
It's a time where you rebel, I don't hate my parents, but I rebelled anyway because I didn't want them to decide everything, it's a part of growing up, that's all there is to it, and it's a perfectly natural part of life! People most of the time call it hormones y'know ;D

Also people like Edward is not how abusive people usually acts, and I know what I am talking about because I've tried it

Let's stop all the Twlight talk and be loving to eachother again. Onegai?

Johnny - I don't mind if he gets a little jealous... My boyfriend keeps telling me he's not the jealous type, but then I can tell at other points that he's being jealous, and it's cute... I dunno xD

But yeah, if he says he wants to hit someone for hurting you, or something along those lines, I like it too xD

I'm 20 years old, Aiko.

I'll be 21 in four months.

I was a teenager, I was just a smart teenager who knew how to appreciate the people who gave her life.

I get your point johnny. xD That's sounds kinda fucked up. Maybe not to everyone cause they are like "well it wouldn't happen to me anyways" well it most definitely could...Ff he's so "worried" then why don't he handout with those friends too and get to know them? Jeez... xD

Then again... I'm kinda at a point where everything my boyfriend does/says is cute...

Sephi: I would love to do that too, but I can't stand people calling Edward abusive, especially if they haven't ever tried being in an abusive relationship, actually he hasn't even once tried to hurt Bella, he haven't hit her, and he haven't continuously told her how useless she is, everything he does is to protect her
So what if he is emo, at least it's not her he's purposely destroying inch by inch

And yes I get heated up, but that's because I lived five months with an abusive person, and that leaves scars for life that I can't just suppress

I never really rebelled against my mom either. Except when she told me how to dress. :B

Aiko - No, he hasn't abused her, but he's certainly creepy... >.<

Why the fuck would you "try" being in an abusive relationship? >_> If I had a boyfriend who even hit me even once I'd punch him back never to see him again, ever. He could go kill himself.

Alexander: Yeah he has some stalker traits, but I don't think you can call it actual stalking if she wants him to? =_=;

Yuki: I like how everyone always say that, I was like that too, but it's not as easy as it sounds, because usually you really care about and love that person, and you didn't know they were abusive from the start

If someone wraps you up so completely that you go into a coma without them, and you start sobbing and thinking your life is over when they're not there, that's a form of abuse. It's co-dependency. It's making it so the person needs you, thus controlling them emotionally and mentally.

Not all abuse is physical or verbal. If you get into a relationship with someone who's trying to control what you do, who you hang out with, where you go, that is abuse. And that's also exactly what Edward does in the books, only it's flowered up and meant to sound like "love".

Aiko - I don't care if we're dating... I don't want him stalking me >.< That's just way too weird..

Yuki - Anyone that hits me gets hit back, harder. No one messes with me >.<

True, but after the first him you ain't supposed to stay with them. It's very easy for me. I don't easily forgive people for bad stuff. I've had people betray me or making my life a hell and I'll never forgive them. If I saw them today I could push them down the stairs. It was their choice to be ass holes after all, not mine. And if they don't wanna get pushed down the stairs they should have thought of that before. Though, I haven't actually done anything yet. I haven't seen them in years, luckily.

Johnny: That's not really Edward's fault, love is not something you can control (Oh but how nice it would be if it were), actually Edward is constantly trying to push her away, because he knows it's dangerous for her.
Also do you really think that would happen irl even though the fangirls wish it?
That's why it's fiction, it's not how things are, it's made up

Alexander: I am pretty sure she has some weird fetish about it xD

Yuki: You can't say that before you've actually tried it
Why do you think women don't leave abusive men? It's not like they enjoy being beaten up and have all their belief in themself destroyed, but these people convince you, you are not worth more than that, and they know exactly how to do it

I had to see a shrink for a year, just to not break down every other day crying
And I still can't make myself tell my parents what happened because I know it would hurt them even more than it already has

Because abusers hide it, they act all sweet and nice, until you're hooked in..
My ex was like that and was pretty much staying with me by the time I found out how eh was...
My grandparents were gone (one in hospital, other at a friend's from mental breakdown) and it was their house, but he took it over and I knew he could come back and hurt me if I tried to kick him out.

He stole from my grandparents, he hurt me, physically and emotionally... Made me feel selfish if I used my own money on myself... got me to spend my birthday money on his wishes.. :C
And when I pissed him off enough, he had a guy he'd met and become semi-friends with (and had boozed up and had booze in him himself), he had the guy rape me, which was when I finally had my breaking point, and ran away to live with someone else out of a van.
(Only way I felt I could be safe) Of course, that's another can of worms.. but I eventually got back home, where I am safe.

This is how I understood it too, even though I haven't actually read any of them. Edward's like a Muslim big brother. lulz

Guuuuuys, please stop. ;o;

Yuki - hn.. well it depends for me. If it was out of anger... he's gone.. If we were messing around, I'll probably get him back when he least expects it, and it would be fine.

Alex, Johnny, you're mods make it stop. Why does the 28 year old have to beg?

There was warning signs and still you stayed with him. I already know I'm selfish so I wouldn't care if someone told me so. I'd tell them to mind their own business. I'm not saying it was your fault but things could have been done better eh?

Which is why I say that it's Bella's fault, too.

Bella is the key to this situation. It's Bella that's saying "he stalks me because he loves me" and "he tries to control me because he loves me". Bella is actually the dangerous one to the readers, because her justifying the control-freak behavior of Edward as "love" is something that the people who grow up and get into relationships will do.

And yes, it's perfectly possible for someone to get into a relationship and not recognize that the abusive behavior isn't what love is. People do it all the time without Twilight's help, now they'll just do it more because they have an idealized representation of "love" that is actually controlling, manipulative, and creepy.

Because the 24 year-old needs a shower >.<
brb

I'm just replying to the posts I get... Ô_O

Sephiroth, we're allowed to discuss things in here.

No one is swearing or insulting anyone, we're just having a discussion.