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Echo-chan713 08-22-2011 03:14 PM

I don't want kids period. I had that idea since I was 11

Saiyouri 08-22-2011 03:16 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) That's a great idea. I wished I had that one. >.<



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femme gauche 08-23-2011 09:08 AM

I'm 21 and I've never even kissed a guy XD. It's not that I'm against it, at this point I can't imagine having kids, but I just haven't had a boyfriend or anything xP.

Saiyouri 08-23-2011 09:13 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) There is nothing wrong with that Femme.
You are waiting til you find someone right.
I admire people like that. I wish I waited
for alot of things til I met my husband but
then I think that if I waited then I might
not of met him and I wouldn't have the
greatest guy in the world hehe. I'm an
annoying optimist >.>; So much so that it
actually bothers me at times lol.




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femme gauche 08-23-2011 09:15 AM

I'm the same way. i think about things that I might regret, but then I think, I wouldn't have the best friend that I have, and I wouldn't have the happiness that I have with the things that I enjoy...

Saiyouri 08-23-2011 09:40 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) Same with me. My husband was a virgin when
I met him. He has values a girl would
have. He highly values sex and thinks
it stands for something very special, same
with me. He also thinks it should only be
enjoyed between people who are in love
with each other. He was 18 and had these
values that he taught himself. No one in
his family thought like that, only him. And
that is one thing that I really love about
him. He's the perfect guy for any woman hehe,
or man if he was that way lol.




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Echo-chan713 08-23-2011 11:19 AM

For me I couldn't really handle the thought of raising another being, I would end up being like my mom, never there (I would be a horrible mom). I can't find the good ones here in Colorado, the good ones want something that I can't have; beauty. :(

Saiyouri 08-23-2011 12:46 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) I'm sure your beautiful Echo. And you will find that
right one, one day.

I hoped to be a good mom but I ended up
being a bad one. I tried my hardest but
it was just too hard to raise someone
that completely depended on you 100%.
But I'm glad my son turned out pretty
decent. I at least did one right, and
that's what I look at. One is better
than none.

Not everyone is made for being a parent
and I think it's good that people don't
have children when they think they would
be a bad parent. There are so many people
out there that have kids even though they
can't handle them and are bad parents but
they just keep on doing that and it's bad.
I wished there were more people out there
like you who absoultely don't want kids and
are making sure they don't. But if you do
have a child. I'm sure you will do your best
and will do fine.




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femme gauche 08-23-2011 04:43 PM

Well they can't be that good if they're only interested in beauty queens... That's the way I think about it.

Saiyouri 08-23-2011 05:35 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) Great way to think of that.



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femme gauche 08-23-2011 07:54 PM

Yeah, so... I mean, I'm not particularly attractive - moderately so I suppose - but I wish I knew a way to be sure, if a guy likes me... I mean there are a number of things. Haha. But I've never had a guy with a serious interest, I mean there have been guys who liked me but none that seemed particularly appealing, to me. Personality wise I mean.

Saiyouri 08-24-2011 03:19 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) Don't worry Femme, you will find one someday.
I found my perfect guy and I know you will.
There is someone perfect for everyone. It
just takes sometime finding them at times.
Wished it didn't though.




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femme gauche 08-24-2011 08:45 AM

Yeah, that search can lead to a lot of distress for many people, but at the same time, what fun would it be if you were given all the answers at the beginning?

Echo-chan713 08-24-2011 10:52 AM

my searches lead to other people's misery, For me I think there aren't enough good guys (or girls) in the world

Saiyouri 08-24-2011 02:01 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) I luckily wasn't looking for
someone when I found my perfect mate. I
feel bad for people who have to though.

Sadly there aren't Echo. And there should be
more good people out there.




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Echo-chan713 08-24-2011 07:05 PM

over 6 BILLION OF THEM

femme gauche 08-24-2011 09:57 PM

Think about the fact that the culture for a good portion of that population has people marrying people for political and sociological ends, rather than because they've found someone particularly special...

Echo-chan713 08-24-2011 10:01 PM

or for economic gains, don't forget that

femme gauche 08-24-2011 10:04 PM

Well that was mainly what I meant by sociological, but yes. The point is many people are in situations where they are not looking.

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 06:20 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) People should only marry if they are truly in love. I hate how
people marry for stupid reasons like the ones
you two mentioned.




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Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 10:50 AM

My mom married my dad thinking that they are in love but then after a year in love they hated each other

femme gauche 08-25-2011 11:36 AM

I don't know; it's really hard to know what will last, and in many cases the ones which start for political or whatever reasons, last without difficulties... Of course there are many challenges with that as well. But people who are "in love", marry quickly without testing themselves in any way. Then the first fight splits em up. I don't know. I don't know if I want to get married. Not that it matters anyway right now, since I have not even a single prospect for a date let alone marriage.

Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 11:54 AM

My mom Marries men that have been with her for about a year, it's a short amount of time to jump into that sort of commitment

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 11:58 AM

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(。◕‿◕。) Marriage is tricky to figure out. Some people
can last if they marry soon and some
can last if they take their time to marry.
It all depends on the people. I'm one of the
lucky that has a marriage that will last. If
we haven't split up yet then we never will.
Too many people get divorced and I just don't
understand why they do. There had to be doubts
of some kind to begin with if the marriage didn't
last that long. At least that's what I think but
I'm different than most couples out there.




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femme gauche 08-25-2011 11:59 AM

Yeah, and yet after only one or two years people start chatting about marriage and it's like, shut up already.

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 12:01 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) Lol I never talked about my marriage to anyone. For
one I didn't have anyone to talk to but there
was nothing to talk about. We were just
together still like we were before, nothing
changed but a extra piece of paper saying we
legally share everything instead of choosing
to share everything.




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femme gauche 08-25-2011 12:04 PM

I mean that people start trying to get couples to get married, their families and friends, within a couple of years. Not necessarily that plans occur it's just pressure.

Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 12:06 PM

My mom did that everyone kept telling her to shut up, even her fiance told her to shut up about the wedding, she became a REAL bridezilla. Everything has to be her way or no way.

The wedding was taken place on the fields of the resort; the wedding before her had the exact color scheme: white, lilac, and brown they were real flowers and it was beautiful. No, my mom wanted them down because the white didn't match her dress.

The wedding sucked balls. No one carded anyone so my 18 year old step-sister got drunk off of at LEAST 6 rum& coke (heavy on the rum). Screwed up the catering, I didn't eat the wedding cake but everyone did and they said that it was the most disgusting cake ever. Better off making one that tastes 100 times better.

The wedding turned from $1,000 to $10,000 budget B|

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 12:12 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) Well that's stupid. No one should pressure someone into
marriage. Then it won't work out if you are
rushed into it when you are not ready. I was
an odd one and so was my husband, we were
ready when we first met to get married, heck
we would of married not long after we started
to date if my mom let me, but nooo she wouldn't.
But we are a rare find. People that actually
last long.

I won't deny we had our problems but that was
because we were teen parents and my mom kept
on butting in our marriage and my life every
possible chance she got, which was all the
fricken time. We did split up for awhile but
I finally realized that during that time my
mom was the cause of our problems and I needed
to cut her out of my life and I did and we
have been tighter than we were before ever
since then.

Echo- I am really sorry to hear that. Things like
that should never of happened. Sadly there are
women like your mom and there shouldn't A
wedding day is the day you will never forget, it
is supposed to be the happiest day in your life,
but alot of people out there take it too far
and ruin the whole thing by not enjoying the
process of getting married. People should enjoy
getting their wedding together, not stressed out
and have to have the best of everything. I feel
simpler is better, but that's because I think all
out extravagant weddings are ridiculous.




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femme gauche 08-25-2011 12:15 PM

Many women today feel like somehow they aren't women if they don't do the big wedding thing. It's sad...

My sister eloped. People suspected ti would happen, his family is in Alabama; hers is in Michigan; they married in Chicago, and did a little photo shoot in the city. My mom held a party at a local restaurant. But that all seems better to me than a big wedding. It makes me sick.

Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 12:18 PM

I would have a hard time with my reception because I'm so different from my family because I'm the club dancing type of girl and everyone in my family rather sit and talk for hours. I hate country and everyone loves country.

femme gauche 08-25-2011 12:20 PM

I can't see myself going to a club, unless it was more of a punk type atmosphere (not fakey though) and I don't like country, either. Haha. But I don't hate my family... I still live with my parents, heh.

Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 12:21 PM

Not going to the club I mean I'd rather dance in a crowd, I feel embarrassed when I dance in an empty stage. Good chance that if it isn't country music playing then no one would come

femme gauche 08-25-2011 12:23 PM

Now i just don't know what you're talking about, who is dancing? XD.

Echo-chan713 08-25-2011 12:25 PM

Basically I rather dance with a crowd of friends/family than all alone dancing (other than the father daughter dance and the first dance)

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 12:27 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) We got married in the judges office with our twins,
my mom and his dad as our witnesses. I
rather enjoyed it, he did too, simple,
easy. We did it that way because it was
the day we were going to be married not
a day to show the world how much money
we have, which to me is every big wedding.




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femme gauche 08-25-2011 12:40 PM

Well the fact is they're trying to show off money that they *don't* have. Many people take out big loans or second mortgages in order to finance their big weddings. It's disgusting. Reeks of dowry.

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 12:51 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) That is disgusting. You should only do what you
can actually afford with what you have in
the bank and not go over board. A wedding is
a special day that you promise yourself to
the love of your life and not a big show off
party to act like you are god and got the best
of everything in life when in fact you most
likely don't have anything good at all.

To me most marriages don't work because one or
both of the people became selfish. A marriage
is a work together thing. Both of you have to
work together, understand each other completely,
agree with each other on the important issues.
If you can't agree on how to raise children, then
you can't make it work. Things like that have to
be agreed upon, both of you have to follow the
other with what they choose and not go against it.
But most couples out there only worry about themselves.
My husband's grandparents are like us, we share
everything and understand each other and accept the
other for who they are and not try to control the
situation and marriage. We work together entirely
and they worked out, my stupid mom controls her
marriage and the bastard she married and their
marriage is only going to last because 1- The guy
she married is terrified to be alone so he's gonna
stay in a mentally, verbally abusive marriage just
so he won't have to be alone and 2- my mom won't
have to work and she can spend all his money on
stupid ridiculous things that she doesn't even
need in a million years. She's a huge selfish
bitch that doesn't have a marriage and if they
both won't worried about having to fend for
themselves they would get divorced. I know it.
LOL I have a great marriage and my mom has a
terrible one and she waited til she was in her
really late 40's to get married for the first
time, to my husband's father. But they deserve
each other, both are losers and I hate to say
this, but it's true, both should die, especially
my mom. She's been a abusive person my whole
life and she is abusing my kids and there is
nothing I can do about it, and his father is
a horrible dad, he doesn't even care about his
own children and won't help them out no matter
if they are seconds away from being tossed on
the street with no where to go and no home and
no money. But they deserve each other, both
losers are together. By the way, I really hate
my mom, really hate her, I'm impatiently waiting
for her death because of what she's all done to
me, my husband, my son and the children she stole
from me. Poor kids are brainwashed into thinking
they deserve the mental and physical abuse.




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femme gauche 08-25-2011 01:03 PM

Wow... that's... disgusting. I can see your... disgust. But it's good to see that you have a good relationship with your husband, and that you appreciate the significance of it.

My parents have been married for... 33... going on 34 years. I realize more and more how odd that is.

That kind of thing... I've always wondered how you could go about not knowing these things early on in a relationship.

Saiyouri 08-25-2011 01:11 PM

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(。◕‿◕。) Hopefully people don't realize them because they
are just plain stupid as heck and have no
brain at all. Otherwise thinking over and
over again that things will go away eventually
is retarded because after awhile you will
realize things aren't getting better but you
keep on staying because you are getting
something material from the marriage.

Long marriages like that are rare, but it's really
nice to see people can stay together for that
long. I'm happy for your parents, they are part
of a rare breed of people. Wished more marriages
would work out. Most of them ruin kids lives, and
some moronic people think that having a kid is
gonna make the problems go away, which is even
way worse, but that's people. Most of them are
stupid as heck. >.>;




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