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Gallagher 11-24-2019 06:31 PM

void punctuating every statement with "trans rights" is very on brand

littl3chocobo 11-24-2019 06:33 PM

makes me want to buy packers and picketing sticks

Stabbsworth 11-24-2019 06:34 PM

i can and will punctuate everything with trans rights. hrngnhghghgh.

littl3chocobo 11-24-2019 06:35 PM

heck yeah!

Stabbsworth 11-24-2019 06:43 PM

trans rights are human rights.

Coda 11-24-2019 07:09 PM

No, I'm not. Not at all. Also, I didn't use Wikipedia for that except to make sure that I wasn't misremembering anything, because I'm a scholar of history and these are things that I know for reasons that have nothing to do with wanting to argue about booze or get into fights on the Internet. (In truth, the reason I know it is because I participate in a medieval interest group and one of my friends in that group is a brewer, and I spent quite a bit of time learning about the historical context of the drinks and their use in the various social classes.)

I'm also not arguing in bad faith despite what you may believe; don't attribute an argument to bad faith just because you don't agree with it. The fact that you suggest it indicates that you don't even understand the point I was trying to make, and the rest of your response corroborates that. (However, I will admit some level of culpability here, as upon review of my post I realize that I forgot to actually tie it together, which I admit muddies my point.)

My point was that the idea of forcing yourself to do something you don't like just for the sake of the social experience is unhealthy. My point was that you really ought to drink because you enjoy the drink itself. I will amend that point here, however, in that there are historically other contexts in which the point of consuming alcohol was not to enjoy the drink. In particular, I pointed out the hygienic use, but historically people made sure they enjoyed those drinks by adding flavors and watering it down until it was something they could enjoy. There were also religious reasons to do so, and it appears that at some point during the editing of my post I removed the part I had included about its use for mourning and stress relief (though there's still a slight allusion to it). And in those cases, it's fine if you don't like what you're drinking, and some cultures even had explicit exceptions to the usual social norms and found it acceptable to be drunk while mourning.

The entire purpose of my historical infodump was to counter your claim that my point is historically unsupported. The fact that there have existed cultures across the entirety of human history since the discovery of alcohol that recognize the pros and cons of alcohol consumption and developed cultures that created and/or modified drinks to taste good specifically for the purpose of tasting good (including, as you yourself brought up, wine tastings) suggests that yes, there IS a historical precedent to suggest that you should drink things you like drinking.

Be sure that you don't misconstrue my argument. I thought I was being pretty clear when I said that I was talking about drinking something you don't like for the specific purpose of establishing a social circle. Drinking things you do like while building a social circle? Not a problem. Drinking things you don't like for religious reasons? Sure. Drinking things you don't like as a way to, for example, honor a particular person? Still doesn't run afoul of my point. But to keep drinking something you don't like for no reason but the social experience of drinking? That's a 20th-century thing.

Espy 11-25-2019 02:11 AM

...-scratches head- Drinking for the sake of getting drunk is a very, very recent thing in human history. That IS what brought about the Prohibition, a mere century ago.

Stabbsworth 11-25-2019 11:49 AM

hmmmm. brain's a bit shot. right ear is blocked w/ earwax.

Merskelly Metalien 11-25-2019 01:08 PM

I woke up at 2:30 today. e-e For NO reason at all. Then didn't go back to sleep until 4-ish. Only to wake up at 6:30, super tired. T-T???
I-..I don't-...*gulps down a big mug of English Breakfast tea* >~<; It was that unfinished Text Analysis assignment I went to sleep thinking about..gah! Procrastination, you devil! *shakes imaginary fist in air*

Stabbsworth 11-25-2019 02:50 PM

if it makes you feel any better, i'm pretty sure i got to sleep somewhere at around 4:30 am. mostly because of a blocked ear.

Merskelly Metalien 11-25-2019 03:47 PM

*looks up 4:30am in London Time...which was 8pm for me yesterday*
o_o; woa dude...you live in the future~~~ I was snoozin' off and on around lunchtime for you!

Biomecha 11-25-2019 03:49 PM

Laws of nature #541: The further away from a mirror you are, the more likely you'll get an eyelash in your eye.

Espy 11-26-2019 03:29 AM

Wiki: Londonderry Air

Me: Hehe, London derrière.

Death by Mirrors 11-26-2019 04:47 AM

Must be what we call Paris butt.

...simply called bustle in English, talk about jokes getting lost in translation

Stabbsworth 11-26-2019 11:35 AM

i wish for death but, uh. y'know.

therapists cost.

so now i have to kick whatever god's ass to get me to stop wishing for death.

Death by Mirrors 11-26-2019 05:00 PM

...I'm here :P

(seriously though, pm me if you need advice. it's probably bad advice, but it's free)

Stabbsworth 11-26-2019 05:04 PM

in other news, i found a mod that my friend would like, since WWE is one of their hyperfixations.

littl3chocobo 11-26-2019 06:49 PM

isn't free bad advice already available at any family gathering? XD

Stabbsworth 11-26-2019 06:51 PM

probably. then again, there's also bad opinions that affect minorities.

littl3chocobo 11-26-2019 07:18 PM

bad advice and bad opinions really are just the same thing with varying degrees of repeatability XD

Death by Mirrors 11-27-2019 04:11 AM

My bad advice only comes once, so everyone gotta pay fuckin' attention to my words. And it now costs a piece of art to distinguish myself from family gatherings as a unique brand.

KittyBeary 11-27-2019 05:33 AM

As much as I wanted rain, I did not want mud and my cat to come in the house with muddy paws.

He gets angry when I have to clean his paws. x(

daikokunyo 11-27-2019 10:49 AM

my favourite k-pop group, exo, came back with a song called obsession... i love it already but the chinese version bangs me into another dimension, is it just me?

Stabbsworth 11-27-2019 12:42 PM

i just want to be told that i'm doing a good job.

hey mum if you're so worried abt me sleeping in all the time wouldn't it be a good idea to get me to go to therapy

Merskelly Metalien 11-27-2019 12:53 PM

It's raining today where I'm at, but in other California news,
It's snowing on the 5 Freeway near the Grapevine.
o-o;
We're gettin' some crazy weather over here. But I'm glad it's not the hellfire season anymore, and it's getting at least a little more winter-y rains. ^~^; Like, I know 49 degrees fahrenheit isn't cold to a lot of people, but it's like being in a fridge to me without a proper jacket and scarf, and gloves. e~e;

littl3chocobo 11-27-2019 02:47 PM

if the cat doesn't want clean paws then the cat should not go out and get then mucky XD


in a most surprising turn of events i am happy with my current lot in life!

Merskelly Metalien 11-27-2019 03:18 PM

:D A pleasantly surprising turn of events indeed!

Stabbsworth 11-27-2019 05:28 PM

god, i wish that were me.

Merskelly Metalien 11-27-2019 05:32 PM

:'] *currently slippin' into a void of exhaustion, frustration, anxiety and pizza*
mmyup. Same.

Stabbsworth 11-27-2019 05:40 PM

i don't think it's gonna be possible for me to become a decent gamedev. people want qualifications and such.

and doing art as a job just seems. ehhhh. seems like a certain gateway to burning the hell out.

Coda 11-27-2019 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Voidbarker (Post 1927777)
i don't think it's gonna be possible for me to become a decent gamedev. people want qualifications and such.

Not gonna lie, it's irritatingly hard to get into the industry. The studios big enough to hire are also big enough to be choosy. Back when I was actually thinking I wanted to be a professional game dev I was never able to get very far at all.

But that's not meant to be doom-and-gloom and saying it's impossible. It's hard, but it's actually easier now than it was when I was trying. The reason I didn't get very far despite my professional software engineering experience is because my knowledge was pretty unrelated to video game software.

It's a WHOLE lot easier to get a meaningful indie project under your belt without needing a significant budget to get started. With good, solid, professional-grade engines now available for free such as Unity and Unreal, and with a big enough indie game development community out there to be able to actually find resources and tutorials and help, the industry is more approachable than it has been in over a decade.

The days when you had to be the next John Carmack to make something good are gone. Arcane knowledge of how to make a game engine scream isn't necessary to get your foot in the door; you can get the qualifications necessary for a junior game developer while still being a mere mortal. Sure, knowing how to make a game engine scream is definitely a skill worth possessing, but there are enough roles outside of engine development that need filled that it's enough to demonstrate that you know how to use the tools that exist.

That said, you'll want to make sure your life circumstances are stable before you start down that path. Living with your parents because you're still in school (whether high school or college) is ideal, but studying game development while you're working a less exciting job to pay the bills is still entirely reasonable. (The game devs that can quit their day job to try to break into the industry are a lot less common than you might imagine, and they have to have already built up enough savings to get by until they start making revenue.)

I've said this before, but I'll say it again -- I am happy to teach. The main reason I'm not a full-time teacher is because I enjoy building solutions to interesting problems too much. (I, um... also probably couldn't get by on a teacher's salary.) If you have questions, I'm happy to answer. If you want some lessons, I can provide. One-on-one tutoring is totally a thing I'm open to doing. I won't even charge for it.

littl3chocobo 11-27-2019 08:18 PM

i dunno, i'm an artist and old x''D you probably don't want to be me, hahahaha

MonBon 11-27-2019 11:58 PM

Experiencing major fatigue, in all things

bluebird 11-28-2019 01:31 AM


Stabbsworth 11-28-2019 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1927795)
[SNIP]
I've said this before, but I'll say it again -- I am happy to teach. The main reason I'm not a full-time teacher is because I enjoy building solutions to interesting problems too much. (I, um... also probably couldn't get by on a teacher's salary.) If you have questions, I'm happy to answer. If you want some lessons, I can provide. One-on-one tutoring is totally a thing I'm open to doing. I won't even charge for it.

i'd rather actually be able to pay you for your time in the case that you do manage to teach me. (also i have a huge tendency to procrastinate.)

the one thing i'm good at is ideas. concept art is a pretty good thing, and i can code, i just can't model for shit.

i've also asked my dad if there's any secretary jobs that he knows of, because i'm a pretty fast typist and can get to things pretty easily, along with knowing how a lot of software works in general. (and my dad knows quite a few people.)

i'm going to be eighteen next year and i'm definitely not ready for it, but i don't think anyone is, really?

Death by Mirrors 11-28-2019 06:57 PM

Yeah, I'm 34 and not ready to be 18 XP

littl3chocobo 11-28-2019 06:58 PM

mirrors, what is your item set-up for that background?

Death by Mirrors 11-28-2019 07:23 PM

Which one, the galaxy I had before or the one I'm sporting now?

First was Cosmic Cadet plus Galaxy Princess, this one's just posting rewards.

Merskelly Metalien 11-28-2019 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bluebird (Post 1927853)

Is that...?
Thurston Waffles?? <x'3

littl3chocobo 11-28-2019 10:05 PM

cosmic cadet? not sure i have that x''D


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