collecting keys to enter that white tower that popped up.. o3o

I really disliked having to go through those towers, though.
It just felt like padding that dragged out the plot, AND I got super annoyed because when the machines were giving out all the free +6 augment chips, MY GODDAMNED INVENTORY WAS FULL!

Also, I just really dislike 9S. Sometimes in a fond way, and sometimes in a "get this pleb off my screen omg" way. :P

I was in the tower where you just hack the treasure chests... the one near the ocean.. then I somehow got an Alt ending and when you get those.. and don't save BEFORE getting those, you lose ALLL that progress x-x so I had to do that damned tower all over again.. though I waited like a week cause my carpal tunnel acted up due to the hacking games.

Its like the third time I got an alt ending and didn't "system" save.. o3o, had to go through lots of replay xp

I didn't get an alt-ending there, DK. Do you know how you triggered it?

I got it after the tower, when it switched over to A2 i think.. I'd have to go through my video files to see what happened and when it happened.. I'm so use to the quick saves working as full system saves that I forget that nier has 2 different saves... Quick Save is for when you die.. System Save is when you get an ending or shut off the console.. =w=,

there is a trophy for looking up 2B's skirt 10 times btw she jumps away and gives you a nasty look. xD

The fate of the aliens who created the machines. I felt like I had no context at the time to even understand what it meant, and I just think maybe more could have been done with the concept.

I understand the whole point was the both humanity and the aliens are gone, and the androids/machines have to live without their Gods and have no purpose to their existence. I just... I don't know, something about the way it was done didn't do it for me.

How long were the aliens dead? ._. did Adam and Eve kill them? I was paying attention but not paying attention xD if that makes sense..

My understanding of it was that they'd died out long ago, but explaining why might be a spoiler if you haven't got through the Tower yet. :P

Yea i'm still collecting the keys for the tower .. o3o

In a way expected.. but where did pod take 9S? >:o

Finding out that 2B is really a E unit was expected..

At the beginning of the game, she looked REALLY pissed that 9S didn't remember her. She even clenched her fists.. Then some where, she said something like 'this always happens' or something, meaning that this wasn't the first time she killed him. Him finding out that she was there to keep an eye on him and if he were to learn the secrets of YorHA she was to kill him and have his memory erased.

Seeing as they were active for a while before the start of the game, it would make sense she's killed him before for that. He's a Scanning type, he excels at information gathering. And just like this time, he's prolly come across the information before about the Humans being extinct and so on.. thus 2B (2E) needing to kill him and whip his memories.

Her reaction to the other E units wasn't that of shock either... I think that is when she said "This always happens" ..

Knowing some of the original NieR game's endings I don't expect happy endings..

THAT GHOST GIRL THAT KEPT APPEARING WAS A MACHINE LIFE FORM SPYING! D:< WTF! I kept wondering about her >-> She showed up in the alien ship for a second, and in the bunker when we're boarding a flight unit.

I need to choose 9S next time ovo gonna go through and get the other alt endings first.

A2 looked at peace at the end. =) That's nice ^-^

I actually took it a little differently.

The fact that she was crying when she had to kill 9S, and the pain in her voice when she said that line, I think she really legitimately LOVES him, even though she's not supposed to be able to feel that. And every little bonding moment they have is incredibly painful for her, because she knows it can't last, and she can't ever let anything grow between them because if she does, it'll make killing him that much harder, or even impossible.

It's an incredibly sad story, since in this horrible world they're in, where suicide is often preferable to living, a bond like that is beyond precious, and the thought that they could actually be happy together despite all the awful things that have happened to the world, if not for the pointless war they're stuck in... it's heartbreaking.

It seems to be implied that her memories are completely intact of all the time she's spent with him. I think the stoic dedication to their mission that she shows most of the time is her coping mechanism to deal with the unbelievable pain and guilt she's carrying around inside. She knows that even though their Gods (humanity) are dead, it's still possible somehow for her to have a meaningful life because of the feelings she has for 9S, but she can never have that because of the brutal reality she exists in.

And then to see the horrible anguish of her last moments, when she realizes that she's going to die for real, and that she'll never ever be able to see that dream come true, it was so powerful and sad for me. Absolutely beautiful and tragic.

A lot of the reviews and discussions I've read online say she's boring character with no depth, and I really think that's not a fair analysis of her character. You have to read between the lines and let the things you learn about her after she dies color what you saw of her when she was alive. Such a wonderful, depressing character arc.

I believe she's been in love with him from the start. After all, like I said, it's been implied that she's killed him multiple times before the start of the game, and each time she has to kill him, it hurts her more and more. Which is probably why she tries to be cold to 9S and distance herself from him.

Knowing that makes it even more heart wrenching. Also makes me wanna find out if the creator of the game put more info out into the world (outside nier automata like he did with the stage play that introduced A2)

Her last moments, where she gives A2 her sword that has her memories in them. At first I thought 2B's memories would over take A2, they never did.. But I think 2B had hope that some day, those memories would be put into a new body. Why else upload your memories (data) to a safe place, right? That's the process, upload your data get a new body when you die!

I think that finding out that, the ghost girl AI program thing was the one controlling EVERYTHING! Making sure that the androids barely survived each time the bunker blew, keeping this all going in a cycle.. @-@ that was mind blowing. Loved how it Fractured itself when A2 refused to fight it.



2B isn't boring at all! If one pays attention to the storyline you'd find a LOT of hidden emotions and depth to her. Too many people see her as a stoic lolita type =o=

I didn't find any of the characters boring to be honest.. well maybe 9S's operator was.. but the rest were really cool and had great personalities.

I'm not sure I'd really call it hope when she gives A2 the sword.
With the way things are going at that point, it seems like everything's coming to an end. I think she's analytical enough to realize how unlikely it is that anything good would come of it, but it's a very human gesture, either way.

Yesterday I came across the tie-in short story Memory Cage that shows 2B's first time killing 9S, you should look that up if you haven't yet.

There's an ending where the Pods use 2B, A2 9S's data to rebuild them. OvO ima go after that ending soon.. >w<



=o I'll look it up!

I know that, but even the PODS didn't consider that a possibility until they'd realized they'd developed consciousness. I don't think 2B was thinking of that in her last moments. :P

As long as their data exists, they aren't truely dead. Which is why her face looked slightly hopeful to me. And her data, her memories were in the sword handed to A2.

It's open to interpretation, obviously, so your take on it is just as valid as mine. :P But, personally, I think it makes her death way more powerful if she thought she was never coming back. I took her saying "These are my memories, take care of everything for me, A2" as her hoping after seeing what she'd gone through, A2 would do the right thing and take care of 9S / tell him how much 2B loved him.

Also on that note, though, if they can store their data in their weapons, why the heck did they even need to worry about the storage on the bunker? Or was that more for being able to 3D print new bodies for their minds to inhabit? That's kind of weird, now that I think about it...

Speaking of their bodies, what are they made of? ._.

Metal, synthetic skin, blood?... =w=

Are they really 3D printed? =o

But yea, I think the whole 'upload data' to the bunker is for them to get new bodies, and for what ever to go through said data to use in the future when making better android models.

I don't actually know, I've heard people on reddit say they're 3d printed though. I'd believe it.

But yeah, I don't get why they bleed. It sure makes for disturbing scenes, though.

Speaking of which. Ending D. It took me a bit to realize 9S's screams of pain aren't just cause he's dying -- he got stabbed with 2B's sword and got all of her memories! He's realizing in his last moments how much she actually loved him. It's so grim, haha.

they breath, eat, bleed... what odd androids xD

I can only assume it's cause they were made in the image of humanity. Though... do we know who actually designed the YoRHa androids? If it was Crispin Freeman 2x creepy girl AI, it's possible the YoRHa are similar to Adam and Eve, and made to be as similar to humans as possible while still serving as a evolutionary pressure to the machines.

https://i.redd.it/07zj6xemu8qy.png

From what I understood from some of the original NieR info I got and stuff, YohRa androids were made by other androids. The other androids were the ones left behind after humanity died off. Popola and Devola are a pair of the androids from when Humans were still alive, but because of another set of the Popola and Devola Twin units, humans died off.

And from the story we heard from the Twin Units in NieR, there were many different android types left back then. And since those older units were suppose to look, act and seem human while watching over the Gestalt Project, the humans made them to do just that, and that is why the YohRa units seem so human as well.

It's amusing that they have 'allergic' reactions to eating fish.. >w>,


There's also Rumor that the "Machine King of the Forest" is actually a robot from the original NieR game.

As for outside of the game designs, I think Yoko Taro designed them.

Oh, you just reminded me, I've seen a couple people talk about how the "other" model of P&D were responsible for humanity's extinction,
but I could SWEAR in the text adventure part where you learn their story, at the very end it said that there never was any other Popola and Devola, and that they were mindwiped so they'd forget the horrible thing that they'd done. Am I crazy? I guess I should go read it again.

there are other Devola and Popola models but to the 2 in Automata, they are the only ones like themselves. Popola, the main story teller of that said "we are our own person, they are their own person" or something like that when talking about the ones that were responsible.

I think they said something about a wipe and being re-written to carry major guilt or something like that. They were already feeling guilty but the others wanted to make sure that guilt never went away no matter how hard they worked to atone for the other P&D models sins. Or something along those lines.

SOME OF THESE ENDINGS TAKE FOREVER x'D I need 2B to die of the virus instead of A2 giving her release. o3o

...I totally was not aware of 2B's final message you discover in her flight unit.

Ow.

what message?! D8 I been sick since yesterday and didn't play at all since going for some of the alt joke endings.. I just need emils ending before I go after D and E... o3o

When you're playing as 9S on route C/D going for the different towers/boxes, if you go the Flooded City you can find 2B's crash flight unit, and it has her final message for him recorded on it.

Might want a box of tissues handy if you go listen to it, though. :|