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Demonskid 08-05-2015 11:03 AM

if i got a phone emulator i could do it but those are a pain in the butt xD

speaking of phones and computers, watching the PAD twitch streams.. how do they get the PC to mirror whats on the phone screen? =o

ml1201 08-05-2015 11:39 AM

Oh, well that's kind of dumb... .-. on my part that is. ^^;

Illusion 08-05-2015 11:44 AM

I swear at the rate this is going, this site should just be a Puzzle and Dragons fan site.. xD

ml1201 08-05-2015 12:16 PM

lol, well Coda does want to make his own version that he's working on for the site. XD

Coda 08-05-2015 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonskid (Post 1661132)
if i got a phone emulator i could do it but those are a pain in the butt xD

speaking of phones and computers, watching the PAD twitch streams.. how do they get the PC to mirror whats on the phone screen? =o

Puzzle and Dragons doesn't work in emulators! :P

And there's a variety of programs for streaming your phone screen. I don't know any of them off the top of my head, but from what I understand it's actually fairly easy

Demonskid 08-05-2015 01:22 PM

most of the sites activity is in this thread it seems like.. o3o

CODA LETS TURN THIS PLACE INTO A FANSITE! x'D

Coda: o3o doesn't work on emulators... thats sad for those who don't have phones or tablets..

My phone probably wouldn't be able to handle streaming things to a pc ;-; it lags when i play PAD as it is.. sad that i can't change out the internal memory for a larger capacity chip. =/ the thing keeps downloading and updating things I keep trying to get rid of that I don't use/need like text to speech 3:< use up all my space

Coda 08-05-2015 01:40 PM

What phone do you have? It's possible to disable updates for apps.

Demonskid 08-05-2015 01:44 PM

LG Optimus Dynamic II

I got it from trakfone.

Coda 08-05-2015 01:46 PM

What Android version? Settings -> About Phone.

Demonskid 08-05-2015 03:13 PM

Android Version 4.1.2

Coda 08-05-2015 06:07 PM

If you go into Settings -> Apps and swipe left you can get to a list of all installed apps. From there you can uninstall updates (thereby freeing space) and probably disable the apps (which will prevent them from running or auto-updating). If there's something you can't disable, go to the app's page on the Play Store and the three-dot menu in the top-right corner will include an option to toggle auto-updates.

Demonskid 08-05-2015 06:22 PM

I'll have to do the google store part, cause disabling the google text to speech doesn't do crap, it still re-downloads and updates a day later. ><

thanks coda =)


edit: DK got the RO Dungeon Boss ouo he was a PAIN to kill in the Master level.. hate to see what the next level does ;0; Echidna's one skill kept freaking me out, my board would go all black and then Poofs! its back to normal.. not use to that x'D

Coda 08-05-2015 10:35 PM

... Echidna has blind resist? ... Why have I never seen it fire. XD

Edit: I guess maybe it's just because I haven't taken my fire team into a dungeon with blind, and she hasn't been on my healer team since it went mono-light.

Espy 08-06-2015 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1661139)
Puzzle and Dragons doesn't work in emulators! :P

Why not?

Coda 08-06-2015 03:51 AM

It uses some sort of function that's only available on actual Android hardware. I don't know the specific details, but GungHo is pretty paranoid about cheaters so the game may just be detecting the emulator and force-quitting itself. (It certainly does that if it detects you have Xposed installed.)

ml1201 08-06-2015 08:18 AM

What is Xposed? o.O I've never heard of it before.

Demonskid 08-06-2015 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1661180)
... Echidna has blind resist? ... Why have I never seen it fire. XD

Edit: I guess maybe it's just because I haven't taken my fire team into a dungeon with blind, and she hasn't been on my healer team since it went mono-light.

http://i.imgur.com/za9Ntqf.png
ouo she does, now if only it would be like.. 50% or more xD

Espy 08-06-2015 12:18 PM

I did a dumb abd received the TAMADRAs from the mail, and now I'm out of space. Again.

Looks like the only unit I have with Awakened skills is Valk. Is she worth using the TAMADRAs on?

Demonskid 08-06-2015 12:22 PM

i would say so, coda said that valks are always good even in end game so i would use a tama on her =)

Coda 08-06-2015 01:19 PM

Valkyrie gets TWO two-pronged attacks when fully evolved and awakened.

Why is this significant? Well, let me do a quick breakdown of how the damage mechanics work.

When you match three orbs, that makes your monster do an attack dealing 100% of its ATK stat, minus the enemy's DEF stat. Additional orbs added to this match increase the damage by 25%, so a typical five-orb mass attack does 150% ATK to all enemies, minus DEF.

Normally, then, matching four orbs deals 125% ATK to a single enemy.

If you have Two-Pronged Attack, you add 50% to that multiplier. Additional TPA awakenings add that multiplier multiple times, so 2xTPA means matching four orbs deals 225% ATK to two enemies, and 3xTPA (currently the highest found in the game) is 275% ATK. When you trigger the TPA bonus, if there's more than one enemy on the screen, your monster will add a second monster to its list of targets.

A 5-match ("mass attack") adds all monsters on the screen to the monster's list of targets.

If you make multiple matches of the same color in a round, the damage is added together, plus every combo you make adds 25% to your final damage. This final damage is dealt to every monster in the list of targets So making two 3-orb matches would deal 225% ATK damage to one monster, compared to one 6-orb match dealing 175% (100% + 3 extra orbs * 25%) to all monsters.

This means that if you have two TPA awakenings, you deal as much damage to two monsters with one 4-orb match as you would make against a single monster with two 3-orb matches.

Additional examples:

3-match + 3-match: 100% + 100% + 25% = 225% damage to one enemy
3-match + 5-match: 100% + 150% + 25% = 275% damage to all enemies
1xTPA, 4-match + 3-match: 175% + 100% + 25% = 300% damage to two enemies
1xTPA, 4-match + 4-match: 175% + 175% + 25% = 375% damage to two enemies
1xTPA, 4-match + 5-match: 175% + 150% + 25% = 350% damage to all enemies
2xTPA, 4-match + 4-match: 225% + 225% + 25% = 475% damage to two enemies

EDIT: An additional note: No matter how many combos you make, no matter how big your matches are, no matter how many TPAs you have, enemy defense only gets subtracted once, to a minimum of 1 damage. This means that high-defense monsters have to be defeated by a single large attack that overcomes its DEF; two monsters hitting the monster for damage even slightly less than its DEF will only do 2 damage.

One final note: TPA applies to the monster's sub element as well, which acts as a second independent attack as if it were another monster with an ATK of 10% (sub element same as main) or 30% (sub element different than main) of the dual-element monster's stat. This second attack (and its TPA) can hit different monsters than the main attack (and its TPA) if the main attack kills one of those targets.

Demonskid 08-06-2015 01:34 PM

-stares at coda's wall of text- o3o

hello anime -wonders off- ouo,

Espy 08-06-2015 01:40 PM

Oh okay, that makes sense. So I'll keep Valk on my team later on. Maybe not as leader -- unless I have more than two healers or something. I need to check if she gets a sec. attribute later.

Also, these are my current units...

http://i.imgur.com/PFUi0Di.jpg

Coda 08-06-2015 01:44 PM

She becomes Healer / God on her ultimate evolution, picks up a Light sub-element, and her leader skill expands to be 3xATK to Healer and God types.

Fairlio there becomes Dragon / Healer and is a fantastic sub on a healer team.

Echidna and Siren are fairly easy to land. They've got a really low (2%?) drop rate from the normal dungeons they're bosses in, but they occasionally have coin or special dungeons with a 15 stamina cost that give them a much higher drop rate. Siren works a little better than Fairlio on a team with blue Valkyrie just by virtue of also being blue but Fairlio has better HP; meanwhile, you've seen us praising Echidna recently. :P

Edit: That said, Valkyrie Reine's uvo requires an Extreme King Metal Dragon, which is a 99-stamina dungeon that's EXTREMELY hard unless you have the right team (I really hope that the Droidragon dungeon runs again soon...) so don't hold your breath for it -- you won't be able to even see the dungeon for a long time.

Demonskid 08-06-2015 01:57 PM

99 stamina? D8 DK won't see it for a while yet either!

ECHIDNA IS AWESOMES!

Coda 08-06-2015 02:56 PM

That dungeon is ridiculous. Normally when you come across monsters with super high defense your instinct is to bring in as much spike damage as you can so you can overcome it. Extreme King Metal Dragon, however, has DEF that's ridiculous beyond ridiculous -- you have to be able to deal a single hit of over 1.55 MILLION DAMAGE to be able to kill it. Stacking on that kind of damage without a defense breaker is crazy hard. (I crunched the numbers: a fully maxed-out Athena on a 25xATK team using her active skill and King Flamie could do it by matching three sets of four light orbs. This is plausible, but challenging.)

This means that the only plausible ways to do it are abilities that either ignore defense or reduce defense.

Strategies behind the spoiler:

Demonskid 08-06-2015 03:17 PM

Not one of those stones dropped for me to level up my shiva-tan's skill 3:< greedy dungeon!

DK wants a poison mon OnO cleo hates me

ml1201 08-06-2015 05:57 PM

o.o;
Coda, I think you're even more obsessed with this game than DK is. ^^;

Coda 08-06-2015 06:03 PM

Nah, I'm just a super-analytical type. When I face something challenging, I break it down and look for ways to deal with it.

Demonskid 08-06-2015 06:25 PM

ML Coda is our Trisphee Robot ouo though his memory deletes things too often so he forgets things often ^-^

ml1201 08-06-2015 08:36 PM

x'D
Coda is definitely far smarter than I am. ^^;

Demonskid 08-06-2015 08:58 PM

he's smarter than everyone here .. even the illu-kun ono i'm probably the slowest one here xD

ml1201 08-06-2015 11:08 PM

Nope, I think I am because half the time I don't research stuff. x'D

Espy 08-06-2015 11:08 PM

Coda, are you INTJ?

Coda 08-07-2015 12:48 AM

*puts hands on cheeks in shock* How did you KNOW?

Espy 08-07-2015 02:02 AM

I'm too sleep-deprived to tell if that was sarcasm.

ml1201 08-07-2015 08:11 AM

What is an INTJ? o.O

Demonskid 08-07-2015 08:59 AM

I think that was sarcasm o3o i just imagined coda looking like that famous painting 'scream' or what ever its called

\OoO/

Espy 08-07-2015 10:36 AM

It's a Myer-Briggs personality type. That certain type stands for "Introverted Intuitive Thinking Judging". I was going to at first assume Coda was the same as me (INTP), but the analytical part is definitely J and not P.

Erm, I'll do a quick summary after I get on my laptop. I find that that's easier to digest than reading articles.

Demonskid 08-07-2015 10:45 AM

._. it sounds like it would hurt my head ...


PORING TOWER IS OUT! 8D I want the big blob boss at the end! *n*

-runs around with the huge tama from the event dungeon- i ranked up like 4 times from that dungeon! O-O

Espy 08-07-2015 11:47 AM

I am getting my arse handed to me.


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