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Coda 09-05-2019 09:58 PM

"Aphobe"? Someone who... isn't afraid of anything...?

Gallagher 09-05-2019 10:09 PM

wrong aphobe

also, i keep reading aphobe like adobe

ay-foh-bee

Biomecha 09-06-2019 02:00 AM

Almost picked up yet another little pine needle grouping that my dog likes to bring in all the time. Turns out to be a scorpion.

Espy 09-06-2019 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1907208)
"Aphobe"? Someone who... isn't afraid of anything...?

a- here being asexual and/or aromantic

Quote:

Originally Posted by Biomecha (Post 1907228)
Almost picked up yet another little pine needle grouping that my dog likes to bring in all the time. Turns out to be a scorpion.

BIG YIKE

Stabbsworth 09-06-2019 11:34 AM

oh, thank god.

i legitimately can't trust anyone anymore because of the insidiously aphobic shit people will reblog on their tumblr. twitter is an utter cesspool of it as well.

plus the arguments are basically rehashed biphobia in the first place. it's kinda disgusting.

Merskelly Metalien 09-06-2019 03:44 PM

:} *inhale* One day, more people will understand that I actually am not attracted to anyone. *irritated shrug* <x} and that I don't need to have sex or sexual contact like, ever. I just don't. I am fine with video games, homecooking and dancing like an idiot. >x{ And just because I'm an ace, doesn't mean I can't feel sexy if I want to, or make dirty jokes! How is that so difficult to comprehend??? *rockets ace high fives at the Espy and Voidbarker* >:/ Mmph!
I'm hungry. I'm going to stuff my face into some froot loops here. >H<

Stabbsworth 09-06-2019 07:03 PM

i'm heavily sex repulsed, but i can and will support people that enjoy that stuff.

yes, i also make dick jokes.

Den 09-06-2019 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidbarker (Post 1907278)
i'm heavily sex repulsed, but i can and will support people that enjoy that stuff.

yes, i also make dick jokes.

I'm just not interested in sex. I like the idea of it, and enjoy well-written smut, it's just not something I'm interested in for myself.

I make dick jokes, too.

Merskelly Metalien 09-07-2019 12:16 AM

>8o Same Den! Same! xD Aces unite! Or whaddever! *holds up a slice of cake*

DreadedMartian 09-07-2019 12:34 AM

I think no matter what someone will find something about anything to be upset/complain about. I think everyone here can give atleast 1 description of a time when they were made to feel out of place or awkward about their sexual preferences alone. I Like sex. Like alot alot. I'm very open and free about my sexuality. I love nudity and the human form. To be naked is to be truly free. My mom is definitely asexual. But in her day they called it being a prude. My mother will rip into me about relationships and blah blah blah. All I'm saying is...

Stay freaky my friends. In whatever way your freaky flag flies.

Merskelly Metalien 09-07-2019 12:58 AM

:D Harray for Martian's noble and exemplary acceptance despite having a different sexaulity! *floats over and applauds* ^U^ <3 Also for all the hella awesome galaxy pictures!

DreadedMartian 09-07-2019 02:08 AM

Lol Thanks Skelly. I just think life is fuckin hard enough without everyone getting in each other's way.
Ahem, now if you'll turn your attention below...





Death by Mirrors 09-07-2019 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Merskelly Metalien (Post 1907331)
*holds up a slice of cake*

*grabs slice of cake and runs away with it, shouts of "Thank you" already fading in the distance*

Stabbsworth 09-07-2019 11:54 AM

CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE?!

also pls don't call me freaky i've been called that before and it kind of hurt.

Merskelly Metalien 09-07-2019 03:14 PM

o-o Death, wait! That cake might make you skip all the romantic/sex scenes in a movie. xD YOU'RE WELCOME THOUGH!!

Stabbsworth 09-07-2019 07:12 PM

*stares at blatant panphobia on tumblr*

yeah there's some problems with the pan community but can people not vote to exclude people from the wider community just because of terminology + older terms. pan and bi are essentially the same but the distinction is important to people.

gestures.

anyways, the cats are adorable, but i got guilt tripped for waking one of them up for petting.

also, radical remix is now gone with the wind. :(

Gallagher 09-07-2019 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Voidbarker (Post 1907389)
also, radical remix is now gone with the wind. :(

gotta cycle out the old if we're gonna bring in the new :s-awesome:

Stabbsworth 09-07-2019 07:45 PM

regrettably. i do like the aesthetics introduced with Radical Remix, though.

Espy 09-08-2019 01:45 AM

(Background: My two closest friends and I often chat about which friend we are out of specific trios.)

Worms and Sonia: You're the dramatic androgynous vampire with daddy issues.

Me: Wait, how am *I* Alucard?

-after watching the first season of Castlevania-

Me: Ah, yes, I am Alucard.

Death by Mirrors 09-08-2019 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Merskelly Metalien (Post 1907378)
o-o Death, wait! That cake might make you skip all the romantic/sex scenes in a movie. xD YOU'RE WELCOME THOUGH!!

...it does? *stares at cake like Hamlet with his skull*









Okay, I got a plan.

Bake more of it! Send them to all studio bosses, directors, writers - heck, send them to everyone! Perhaps this will lead to a greater selection of movies that don't include any to begin with.

Stabbsworth 09-08-2019 11:33 AM

does espy is vampire????? only we will know the truth behind this.

Espy 09-08-2019 12:16 PM

Eyyy, vampire-inspired avatar. Haven’t done gothic red/black in so long.

Also no, I’ve never been particularly vampire-y.

Coda 09-08-2019 02:35 PM

The only reason aphobia exists at all is because of identity politics.

Asexuality used to be considered a virtue and even today there are religious groups that demand celibacy. People react to it the way they do now because it's gone from being a curious background fact about someone that wouldn't even matter (and would be considered noble if it DID come up) to being something that a small but vocal group has trumpeted as an oppressed population that needs recognition -- when, in fact, they weren't oppressed to begin with. Getting rolled into the queer community was probably the worst thing that could have happened to ace people, because it means that they're now one of the targets of queerphobic opinions.

If someone were to call themselves "celibate" instead of "ace" then I bet people would react totally differently.

Merskelly Metalien 09-08-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Death by Mirrors (Post 1907430)
...it does? *stares at cake like Hamlet with his skull*









Okay, I got a plan.

Bake more of it! Send them to all studio bosses, directors, writers - heck, send them to everyone! Perhaps this will lead to a greater selection of movies that don't include any to begin with.

8} *throws hands up* I didn't bake it! I just obtained a piece overnight somehow. x}
I think lots of directors already have some cake though, that made movies with either little to no romance/sexy parts in it. :]

Espy 09-08-2019 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1907467)
The only reason aphobia exists at all is because of identity politics.

Asexuality used to be considered a virtue and even today there are religious groups that demand celibacy. People react to it the way they do now because it's gone from being a curious background fact about someone that wouldn't even matter (and would be considered noble if it DID come up) to being something that a small but vocal group has trumpeted as an oppressed population that needs recognition -- when, in fact, they weren't oppressed to begin with. Getting rolled into the queer community was probably the worst thing that could have happened to ace people, because it means that they're now one of the targets of queerphobic opinions.

If someone were to call themselves "celibate" instead of "ace" then I bet people would react totally differently.

Okay but... "celibate" and "ace" aren't... the same thing...

Coda 09-08-2019 03:38 PM

Not really? At least, not in a historical context. Historically, having no sense of attraction to anyone would have still resulted in the label "celibate" being appropriate. (Unless of course you were in a sexual relationship with someone you weren't attracted to, but that's neither here nor there.) It's only in the context of modern views on sexuality and the social shift surrounding religion that the term has picked up the current connotations.

And the same is true of "ace." It doesn't say why, only what. For that matter, probing into the underlying "why" of ace would probably be pretty darn offensive to most people, I would imagine.

Espy 09-08-2019 04:43 PM

-shrug- All I know is, whereas most people are sexually attracted to any number of genders, I'm not. Whether that's been exacerbated by meds is irrelevant. And ace/aro are queer.

Death by Mirrors 09-08-2019 04:51 PM

Just give me the number of your dealer/bakery then. And a list of movies, because right now all I can think of is war films. I'd love a good vampire flick that's not cheesy romance, and I haven't yet watched a historical costume drama without romance either.

Stabbsworth 09-08-2019 07:34 PM

sad, feel like i don't belong anywhere again.

also my right hand (which is conveniently my dominant hand) had a spike of numb. got an ache in my elbow. sucks.

Gallagher 09-08-2019 08:19 PM

Coda, while I appreciate the point you're trying to make here with your historical pulls... you're being hurtful towards people like myself that have dealt with the struggle that people under the ace umbrella have.

It's not all about being lumped in with the queer community and being hated on because of that. It's also being pressured into relationships and sex that you don't have any real interest in, or even being raped as a way of 'correcting' matters.

Aphobia is a thing that stretches far beyond simple identity politics. It's something that happens whether there's a label for it or not. For whatever extra issues come up with being lumped into the community, at least it can be talked about now, which is a hell of a lot more than we had.

Stabbsworth 09-08-2019 08:24 PM

ngl, i'm fairly certain coda's got good intentions, just a bit misguided.

the whole issue with being in the LGBT+ / queer community is that there's people that don't believe ace or aro people belong in the community. and because we don't belong in the straight / heterosexual community either as a result of not having sexual or romantic attraction, we're practically ostracised from people with the same experiences.

plus a lot of the arguments are rehashed biphobia, which opens up a whole new can of worms.

Espy 09-08-2019 09:11 PM

thanks.

DreadedMartian 09-08-2019 09:53 PM


I'm just posting my usual space post now.



Coda 09-08-2019 11:02 PM

I had a larger post typed up here where I recounted my own experience as a teenager as a way to compare changes in social attitudes toward the ace lifestyle over the last 25 years. I thought better of posting it, because I realized that it really didn't help; it just put too much focus on something that doesn't actually matter to what I'm trying to say.

But social attitudes HAVE changed over the last 25 years, and things that would have been shrugged off then have somehow become a big deal now. A lifestyle that was merely innocently misunderstood in my generation is now feeling oppression and discrimination where it didn't exist before. And that's what I've been lamenting.

But I've seen that same thing happen all over the place in that time. When by all rational sense things should have been getting better year-over-year, I instead see things getting worse as everything grows increasingly polarized. And the only people I see actually doing cruel bigoted things are people that have developed a sensitized, knee-jerk reaction against what in truth is only a tiny sliver of radicals.

That's why I hold the belief that ace people have been done a disservice by being lumped in with queer lifestyles: they weren't considered queer (and weren't discriminated against) until comparatively recently. That's not to demean or invalidate anyone's identity; you are who you are and no label or attribute will change that. But I just feel really bad that a group of people that I used to count myself among has to deal with such a negative environment that as far as I can tell really only exists because of the political climate of the last 10-15 years.

Espy 09-09-2019 12:15 AM

1.) It's neither a lifestyle nor a choice.

2.) We're queer.

DreadedMartian 09-09-2019 12:57 AM

Ya know I hate to interject but I'm just exploding with curiosity....
Does anyone here like sex?

mdom 09-09-2019 01:02 AM

of all the two guys I've had in 34 years, I really like with one.
The once a year we meet.
that's... uh, not sure where in the ace spectrum

DreadedMartian 09-09-2019 01:10 AM

Okay I get it. So it's a spectrum? Some aren't totally interested but can do it and enjoy it. Does anybody not like it at all?? Like at all??

Espy 09-09-2019 01:16 AM

Sex-repulsion is a thing. Not exclusive to ace people, but they overlap.

EDIT: For the record, I don’t understand why people would look at someone and go “I want to have sex with them”. That is not a feeling I experience.

DreadedMartian 09-09-2019 01:23 AM

I didn't say repulsed. I only ask because everyone seems very open about it and I'm interested in how everyone's feelings fall on this spectrum. Because I imagine that some enjoy masturbation more, some are like Mdom and so on. I just wanna see the spectrum.


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