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Azrael 05-29-2012 10:55 PM

Mmm really? XD I was taught the first, but I don't think it REALLY matters all that much >3<'

Coda 05-30-2012 09:38 AM

It doesn't really matter, no. Neither is incorrect, as "konnichi wa" is more or less an interjection rather than a complete statement.

But as I said, when used in a complete sentence, the positioning of the word will go earlier in the sentence due to the need to have it be grammatically placed.

Demonskid 05-30-2012 01:43 PM

I've heard it both ways myself. though with minna first there is always some what of a pause before saying konnichiwa. they say it to get everyones attention.. where when they say konnichiwa first.. its like they have the attention already.. but thats my experience :3

Azrael 05-30-2012 04:16 PM

Makes sense XD There is always a slight pause after Minna when I hear it that way when I think of it. <3

Anyway, DK, which way would you prefer a kanji list? With readings or with combos/words?

Demonskid 05-30-2012 06:39 PM

I need to learn the readings ouo so readings would be nice

Azrael 05-30-2012 06:43 PM

Alrighty.

mmm, I might do both, IDK.

whitexsuicide 05-30-2012 10:37 PM

hahaha looks like you have some work...>> i myself have promised DK some of my Japanese work... maybe i will get into that, now...

anyways, when i hear minna it is after Konnichi wa

Coda 05-31-2012 12:41 PM

I'm listening to music (in this case "God knows..." from The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya) and sort of surprising myself with how much of it I understand. Some excerpts (not necessarily organized how they are in the song):

ごめんね、何も出来なくて (gomen ne, nani mo dekinakute; "I'm sorry, I couldn't do anything")

あなたは許してくれない (anata wa yurushitekurenai; "You don't forgive me")

どんなつらい世界の闇の中でさえ、きっとあなたは輝いて (donna tsurai sekai no yami no naka de sae, kitto anata wa kagayaite; roughly "no matter how painful it is in the darkness of the world, surely you shine")

やめて!嘘はあなたらしくないよ、目を見て、これからの事は話そう (yamete! uso wa anatarashikunai yo, me wo mite, kore kara no koto wa hanasou; "stop! lying isn't like you; look into my eyes and let's talk about the future" (more literally, "about the things that will happen after this"))

暗い未来だって、強くなって、運命帰られる (kurai mirai datte, tsuyoku natte, unmei kaerareru; "even though the future is dark, we can become strong and change our destiny")

あなたがいて、私がいて、ほかの人は消えてしまった (anata ga ite, watashi ga ite, hoka no hito wa kieteshimatta; "you are here, and I am here; the other people have all disappeared")

I find that breaking down songs and stuff to understand the lyrics is a good way to practice, so if anyone has any questions about how any of these phrases are structured I'd be happy to explain. コーダ先生は教えるよ!(Coda-sensei wa oshieru yo! "Coda will teach!")

(I'll post some other song lyrics that tend to jump out at me later.)

Demonskid 05-31-2012 01:01 PM

ouo

More good news. that japanese pod 101 has a youtube channel that people can watch


http://www.youtube.com/user/japanesepod101

:3

whitexsuicide 06-03-2012 08:42 PM

it is so nice to see all this information gathering!

Demonskid 06-03-2012 09:40 PM

it is nice :3
I hope we get more good sites

mainly one ment for the 3DS xD

whitexsuicide 06-03-2012 10:22 PM

awwhh i want some games for that... it's soo sad that i can not afford one... let alone if my boyfriend would ever forgive me...

Demonskid 06-03-2012 10:24 PM

i want a kana/kanji flash card for the 3ds =w=,

if I had an ipad i wouldn't worry but 3DS and PSP is all i have D:

whitexsuicide 06-03-2012 10:28 PM

hahahah i only have a normal DS... a light but still it can't play the games i want for the 3DS TT.TT

Demonskid 06-04-2012 10:42 AM

i just wish there were more language learning DS games

Coda 06-04-2012 01:01 PM

Just don't get My Japanese Coach. It has some errors in it so that if you give the correct answers on some questions it counts it wrong, requiring you to intentionally get it wrong (and remember that it's wrong so you don't memorize the incorrect answer!) in order to proceed.

Demonskid 06-04-2012 01:03 PM

xD I already have that one but its too much romaji ;-;

Azrael 06-05-2012 01:02 AM

Reading/Writing romanji is almost harder for me than it is it write in katakana/hiragana.

Demonskid 06-05-2012 09:00 AM

i can read and write romaji but.. it doesnt help me practice the kana.. so i want to avoid it so i have given up on my japanese coach xD

whitexsuicide 06-05-2012 07:00 PM

I love Japanese! *cuddles love kanji*

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:03 PM

me too! ouo i'll learn some kanji some day.. other then water, forest and tree xD and mountain xD

whitexsuicide 06-05-2012 07:14 PM

hahahah i have trouble with the days of the week.... they just get me confused.. all i really know is that the kanji for gold is the same for friday..

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:21 PM

sunday = sun day
monday = moon day
tuesday = fire day
wednesday = water day
thursday = wood/tree day
friday = gold day
saturday = earth day

日曜日 (nichi you bi)
月曜日 (getsu you bi)
火曜日 (ka you bi)
水曜日 (sui you bi)
木曜日 (moku you bi)
金曜日 (kin you bi)
土曜日 (do you bi)

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:24 PM

okane.

monday is moonday :3 月 getsu
tuesday is fire 火 ka
wednsday is water 水 sui
Thursday is wood 木 moku
Friday is metal 金 kin
Saterday is earth 土 do
Sunday is Sun 日 nichi

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:25 PM

._. I just realized the kanji for you is a bitch to read in text... It's okay written, but text... ugh.

Edit: Love you DK but saturday is spelled wrong >_> Er, in English, Your japanese is fine. XD

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:25 PM

D: az ninjad me .. stupid bathroom break 3<

you is a bish to write too ono *stares at white board*

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:27 PM

XD I've been writing you for like, five years, so it's easy enough for me. But yeah, it's a ton of strokes >3<'

Edit: I think Thursday or tomorrow I'll make up a Kanji list for you guys. I'm going to write it out and type it up. I'll send you both. The written notes will just be the kanji itself + strokes + a few common readings. The typed will be combo's I think.

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:27 PM

@-@ mine always look odd and crooked

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:28 PM

I think Thursday or tomorrow I'll make up a Kanji list for you guys. I'm going to write it out and type it up. I'll send you both. The written notes will just be the kanji itself + stroke order + a few common readings. The typed will be combo's I think.

haha, you really need a fine pen/pencil to be able to write kanji okay without it being ginormous.

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:30 PM

I need to get ink to print out the kanji/kana paper.. (that or find a way to get a japanese notebook x.x)

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:38 PM

Graphing paper with bigger boxes could work?

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:48 PM

... i forgot those exist >.>, *starts saving her pennies*

Azrael 06-05-2012 07:49 PM

LoL dork

Demonskid 06-05-2012 07:51 PM

ono OKANE GA NAI!! ;-;

(no money)

Azrael 06-08-2012 06:11 AM

私は、日本に行く切符を買ったところだ!
わたしは、にほんにいくきっぷをかったところだ!
(I have no idea if I actually said this right ;-;)

I JUST bought my ticket to go to Japan!

Coda 06-08-2012 12:00 PM

Why did you choose to use "tokoro da"? I would have just said "kippu wo katta!" and been done with it. Also I would have said "nihon he no kippu" ("a ticket to Japan") though I don't think what you said is incorrect.

Demonskid 06-08-2012 12:01 PM

TAKE MEE D: *clings to*

onegaishimasu! (PLEASE)

Azrael 06-08-2012 02:40 PM

ah ._. It was supposed to be "just happened"
Cause when I posted that, I had JUST bought my tickets. So..
Like, more explicitly, "I just bought my tickets a few moments ago" would probably be about right.

Thank you, though Coda ^^' I wasn't sure how to say the ticket bit.

Suuuuper excited though <3 I leave in about a month.

Demonskid 06-08-2012 03:30 PM

ono bring back presents

Azrael 06-08-2012 04:15 PM

I'll be taking tooooons of pictures. XD Like, literally tons. I should probably buy a couple of SD cards before I leave.


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