Voltra.

What I did on Menewsha was leave something/a group of people that was taking advantage of my love... Although there were a few questionable item color scheme choices when I left.

I can understand where you are coming from, Gal. It's not easy losing someone you are close to.

That is why I haven't been in a rush to get back to the States myself.. I feel bad I never got over to visit Jessica before her passing but at the time, I was still in college so I couldn't drop things and fly over but the worst was never getting to say an official goodbye to my sis, Jenni. We had been best friends/sister since five years old and when my friends messaged me saying she was a victim in a hit and run in December, I honestly thought folks were pulling my leg cause I was like.. no.. not Jenni. Not my hellbent sister of darkness. Even my mom was in disbelief when I told her. I had folks messaging me asking if I could call them or they call me but to be honest, at that time, I was in shock. Even now, I have what ifs in my mind.. like what if I went back for a visit that December and she wasn't walking that road alone.. what if I invited her to come to the UK for a visit..

To be honest, I'll probably always have those what ifs in my mind esp if her son gets in contact wanting to know about his mom.

Take the time you need, right now, unless folks wants to organise an user ran event, your health is what matters the most and if you need someone to talk to, etc. Then my inbox is open.

lol.. we need a thread with everyone's preferences in it. XD

my apologies for rushing you. i feel like some of what i said might have sounded insensitive, esp since you and glitch were very close. i wasn't personally as close to glitch. i'm sorry.

it's more towards that i wanted to provide some form of transparency if possible, while also giving you the room to decide whether or not you'd like to talk about it.

i'm always here if you want to natter abt stuff. legit, i keep a tab open on trisphee on my laptop. p much 24/7. this is intended to offer some form of comfort.

christ. i'm incensed by that, but not entirely surprised. i suppose it's better that i went to work for pantheon online, then.

Man, sometimes I wish moderating discord servers was a job that actually paid. I'm stuck with literal minimum wage for now.

if you're certain. i kept details somewhat vague as to who the item review person was bc i don't want you getting harassed, but then again, most people on this site are incredibly understanding and are adults.

...admittedly, i'm perhaps realizing how overly anxious i tend to be at the best of times.

lol, Espy.. you couldn't pay me to mod on Discord.

I remember when Kaguya applied to be a mod in a game we played, was mainly due to her I went for the newbie helper over the mod position but oh boy.. I was glad I said no to applying for the mod position through was an awesome server I had hoped to get offered the mod position but a friend got it. Went to check on them, and they said he wasn't even around half the time and preferred me mainly cause I chatted with the players during my initial newbie position and they wanted me to play on that server over my main server, which at the time, I was settled in and had made tons of friends, this was around when I met the group that I later would move to a new game with. But to get back on track, let's say, Kayuga was the only mod that really went through hell with our server, we had one asshole that would annoy all the mods and lucky me, cause he learned me and Kaguya were dating, I would also get the blunt of his shit. Finally one day, I told him to knock the shit off, if he had an issue with Kaguya, take it up with her, I was done trying to smooth things over for her.

She already had pissed off another huge player in our old guild who luckily was a real sweetheart cause went afk one day doing an event and guess some new members didn't realise folks don't open their teams for this event. So they spawned their monster on me and well.. I killed it and them.. so when I came back and realised what happened, I got in touch with her and said sorry, I was afk and could the member the drop belonged to, meet me in the city and I'll return it back to them. She said, it was fine and she knew me well enough to know what probably happened since I don't just go around killing other players and I returned the drop to the rightful player. But yea, she and the higher members of the guild just loved killing Kaguya when they got a chance. Finally the leader of the guild she was in, said he had enough and joined us, lol, just to get peace from being killed every night at the event.

Also, Gal, as said earlier, take your time. Your health needs to be your no 1 priority and when you feel that you can handle things here then come back.

And yes, the community is pretty much adults now. but again, other communities are also adults and let me say this, some of them still act like teenagers. There is one guy that whines in almost every event.. was told last night, he called folks greedy cause they didn't let him get his 2k in points.. *facepalm* calling the kettle black, this was the person that whined if Hyoga got a single point in most other events..

Yikes. ._. Now that you mention it they do have the body pillow items in the Recycle shop.... and yeah, some of the characters are (I'm pretty certain) minors...

And I know this isn't a serious issue, but there are a lot of layering issues with their items. I think I mentioned it once before, but they haven't really done anything about it. :/ But it's whatever.

iirc they have an entire thread dedicated to these issues, but fixing these issues means you inevitably break some avatars that rely on these issues. you know that old xkcd comic that says that any change breaks someone's workflow?

Wow i

Have really gotten lost in conversation.

The layering issues bother me a lot for some reason. Like if you're going to release an item, test it first. Set up a "mirror" and test it. It's not that hard, and having to do "so many" isn't really an excuse.

From what I gather.. Voltra is very.. PG - 13.. or in other words.. has a thing for child porn..

Most avatar sites don't mind you speaking about other sites but recruiting for them is a big no no. It's like trying to recruit folks to join Subeta on Neopets or Neopets on Subeta.. you could get banned/frozen.

And yes, I have seen some sites were the layering is very messed up. I can wear almost all my inventory in a few, lol.. which looks like a mess after I'm done cause most of my items are horror themed.

I *really* appreciate Tris's layering system, and really hate systems that give you "slots". ...Which is most systems.

yeah. iirc both trisphee and pantheon online are the ones that use theoretically infinite layering systems. (infinite until your browser crashes, anyways.)

i was always kinda iffy with voltra tbh. but like, until they fix whatever the fuck management has going on with them and remove the offending items, i'm not paying a single penny for that crap.

vii has also fucked off, it seems, and they were the main dev of that site.

I noticed that about Vii right away. Any professional that disappears for three months isn't really one I'd want to hire. They are good at what they do but, I'd rather have someone dependable. Who isn't going to put a kill code in their code for when they leave.

I think that's part of why Menewsha's stuff stopped working. There was no reason for stuff to get broken the way it did. it's like someone fucked with the source before moving on.

we're all entitled to be a little.. kinky.. but on an avatar site?

mean what's next.. butt plugs and ball gags for the kiddies? Going to act out Fifty Shades of Grey via forum site.. to be honest, kind of interested to see that get made into an avatar..

In reference to Menewsha, I don't think any professional would do anything with the source code esp if they want a good reference for a future job. Seeing how old the site is, good chance the coding is probably outdated.
It's like anything that relies on coding, languages come and go.. I believe most of Menewsha's content ran via Flash hence why they are broken or stop working.

When I was learning coding, we were the last group to get taught Flash and we didn't have Python as a coding language. Our main languages were HTML/CSS, Java, C++ and C#.

As for a kill switch.. I don't believe there is a such thing esp for someone doing the coding on a professional level - ethic wise. Most likely, the coding has updated and how the stuff is coded is no longer how the program reads the code.

Use to happen in Unity all the time. We would have stuff coded and a new version gets released which fucks all the previous coding up and you have to sit there and literally go line by line and sort the code to get the program running again.

i don't mind vii being gone, but the least they could have done is inform management that they'll be gone, y'know?

transparency is always needed on stuff like this.

also, there's a killswitch in their code??? jegus.

I am lost so i'm gonna check out of this thread.

if you need updates, just ask.

we were previously discussing voltra and their weirdness when it came to making body pillows of the characters that are canonically minors, the disappearance of the main coder of the site, and there may have been something else that i'm currently forgetting that might have something to do with people here's dislike of layer slots and being happy about trisphee's infinite (until you crash) layer system.

Voltra definitely needs to at least let you layer items to your personal preferences(they could learn so much from Trisphee LOL)

I don't think there is any way to code a kill switch into any code, it would be against any programmer's ethics to do that. Most likely the code is probably such a mess, no one else wants to touch it.

oh, of course they have some fuckin spaghetti code.

there was talks about refactoring a good majority of the site, but they haven't gotten around to doing that yet.

Wait... Voltra was the body pillow thing? I was banned from it too, but I had already planned on leaving the site.

how the hell did you get banned from voltra?

Zim zam boom, that's a secret, so shshshshshshsh!:p-mischievous:

I don't blame you Boris. ;w; Although I still login just to collect dailies I have no motivation to post there. Might not even participate in events anymore.

How active is it, may I ask?

It tends to be more active during events. Otherwise I think about as active as here, maybe a bit more, I don't usually check forums often.

I guess that makes sense.

from my recollection, it's a bit more active than here, though i've no idea about that considering i only really counted the online users as a metric for how active something is.

compared to pantheon, though, panth is basically a ghost town. i probably should do some item sets for over there tbh. (pantheon, not voltra. as previously established, pantheon does not want me working for voltra.)

I need to go back onto Pantheon. :(

i'm not on there very often myself. :<
though, it could be that my operating hours simply differ from a good majority of the userbase, lol.

lol, first time hearing coding called that but probably be the case if there have been multiple programmers come and go and how messy they have left the coding. Also another factor is what coding does the site run on.. I remember Neopets being more flash based but half of the site was no longer working before the death of flash and have seen snippets of their code and oh boy.. I don't envy their programmers, sometimes not easy to convert one code to another.

Then again, a good sample of coding being messed up and not being sorted would be an alt on a game. we have an event that resets every 14 days and somehow, the coding to reset his rank isn't working. So basically.. he starts the new session at the rank he was at last session and well, finally our friend that normally gets no 1 is going to be screwed cause he'll get to the stage where no one will be able to beat his score.

Now as me and my friends have came to conclude since this been about three sessions with no fix - 1) none of the other players really give a fuck to report it, 2) mods don't give a fuck to fix it and 3) the code is just that broken, if they attempt to fix it, something else breaks.

But again, this is the alt if not same team with the main char, the higher chars go into protect mode over. Yea, just massacre my main while the alt gets to run around like you all don't know he's an alt.

And probably not hard to get banned from any where. While don't think Voltra would have a black market, have been noticing on a few sites, an ad for a site that sells rune escape gold, if that had been Gaia gold, I am sure a lot of folks would be getting their accounts banned through would say it's more Gaia's fault for advertising the site through.. at a dilemma here.. just recently located a leaked list of info cause trying to get a friend's account back and one of the accounts have not changed their pw to their account.. :/ know the person had been on a few day agos but the sides state 50+ days.. I just don't want other folks accessing the account and doing damage, so kind of at the point, since know the og email and current email, filing a ticket so I can secure the account then sending the owner an email explaining the situation. I would certainly want that if someone across my account in a breach, it's the ethics side through.. want to do what is right but..

not too sure about them having gone through multiple programmers, i think vii might have been the only programmer on there.

ik coda and toho do the coding on here. i would like to do coding for minigames and such on here but also i'm not trained. i do have some experience in looking through lua and being able to parse it, as well as looking through C.

Voltra having a black market... hmm, I wonder if those whom I talked to are still there or if they bailed. I think ads saying they sell virtual currency are all scams.

Pantheon is on my "to leave" list. I'm just needing to save up money and commission owed art, and then I'm gone, like a ninja in the night.

I would say not all of them are scams, I have known folks that sold assets to these sites cause they were quitting and had no use for them.

I think some new minigames would be nice. I'm actually hoping to maybe code a little game where you have to collect cheese as a mouse and avoid cats. I also want to make an updated version of Mouse Trap from the Atari system.

Think most other sites have multiple programmers and I decided to file a ticket concerning that account. :/ if I can get a pin reset, I can safely change the info then contact the owner esp since have came across the account being listed for sale by someone who is not the owner so yea.. black market sites are not fun, I only keep tabs on them cause a friend's account got hacked and I'm waiting to see if it comes up for sale. Plus gives you inside knowledge of what to look out for if you design online games.

Oh, I thought the ads we were taling about were the qutogenerated ones that are personally advertised to you based on the cookies on your device.

I haven't followed much of this thread, but wow...kinda glad I left Voltra before all the questionable/bad items came out...

I mean, I left probably less than (or maybe just over I don't really remember) a year after joining just because even as a new site it felt really cliquey. Like...I would post in a thread and be completely ignored, but someone else would post and get responses from everyone else in the thread. And it wasn't just once or twice, but pretty much in 90% of threads I posted in. The other 10% were responses from friends I knew from other sites first...