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Hermes 07-10-2012 10:13 PM

Nah. In Magic, it's all about usefulness. The game has been around so long now (I mean, it WAS the first TCG ever!) that almost everything is functionally similar, if not identical, to something else!

It just matters how competitive the card is, especially in Standard and Legacy!

hyjin 07-10-2012 10:14 PM

my friends say that some useless card got reprinted again

Hermes 07-10-2012 10:16 PM

A few of them do, yep. Like Merfolk of the Pearl Trident. Magic is not just about its competitive players, and core sets are meant to be more for the new players and such!

Sets are made to be pleasing to all kinds of players, as much as possible (even Commander players, as of late!), and core sets are dedicated to two groups of people: New players and casual players.

hyjin 07-10-2012 10:18 PM

i need to find a few cards to make my white humans to a red white humans...

Hermes 07-10-2012 10:20 PM

well, if you're looking to play standard, then I would suggest Innistrad block for that, though a few select rares from SOM and M13 may be useful, such as Hero of Bladehold from Scars of Mirrodin block, and Odric, Master Tactician from M13

hyjin 07-10-2012 10:27 PM

i found this but it looks like im gonna have to put out a lot of money to find some of those cards... i already have a few of those cards in play sets or i possess 1 or 2 of them

Hermes 07-10-2012 10:29 PM

I would run 2 Thalia and four of either Silverblade or Crusader, but that's just my two scoops of poop

hyjin 07-10-2012 10:34 PM

lol... poop... well i have 4 crusaders and i dont want to spend much money on revamping my deck so i might just do the minimum on spending money and try to make some trades

Hermes 07-10-2012 10:36 PM

Well good luck man

going to bed now

don't poop on your cards

hyjin 07-10-2012 10:43 PM

if i cant get the cards by trades i might just keep it white humans

Ducky 07-10-2012 11:48 PM

I got a couple of Odrics at the pre-release event I went to :D Weirdly Rancor was an incredibly rare pull. Between me and by friends (50 boosters) we got one.. and i was getting doubles of mythic rares :/

I'm loving the rare merfolk as well. I built a deck around m13 merfolk and some clones and got a turn 5 win o-o

Hermes 07-11-2012 05:19 PM

Please send me all copies of Thragtusk and Yeva, Nature's Herald

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Ducky 07-11-2012 06:30 PM

A friend of mine got one of each of those, but i got neither.

Hermes 07-11-2012 06:33 PM

Yeva is my favorite EDH commander right now <3

Mono-Green for he win!

Nature, at instant speed.

Be prepared. Reckonings, etc.

Ducky 07-11-2012 06:47 PM

I made a crappy little EDH last week with Jor Kadeen. He's the only dual coloured commander I have, other than an Atog that is all 5 o.O

Hermes 07-11-2012 06:55 PM

YOU

SHOULD GET

COCKATRICE

so we can play together dawg

we also need to get your girlfriend to play

because we kick so much ass

she needs to kick it with us

Also, I'm a great commander player, would love to spread my knowledge to some willing proteges *W*

Ducky 07-11-2012 07:15 PM

I've had a look at cockatrice, but it's a little overwhelming to me as a somewhat new player.

I know Nexy has had a little experience in Magic, and i'm sure she would get into it if i made her :P

I would love a little Commander help. It currently the deck i'm focusing on most.

Hermes 07-11-2012 07:16 PM

Get the damn thing, I'll train you. I have the patience, and the desire.

Also, I explained the philosophies of the 5 colors to her! =D

Ducky 07-11-2012 07:22 PM

does it have unlimited access to all cards, so you can make what ever deck you want? 'cause i suck at deck making unless i have restrictions to work within :P

Hermes 07-11-2012 07:26 PM

It does, but I will help you. Don't worry. I'll also probably have you work in some restrictions so I can see your deck style, and then I'll build you an EDH

Ducky 07-11-2012 07:46 PM

Generally my deck styles are very simple >_> right now i'm working on a stuffy doll infinite damage combo, and infinite squirrels.

Hermes 07-11-2012 07:57 PM

I have both, and am actually on the team for Crazy Squirrel Game Store <<

Ducky 07-11-2012 08:00 PM

just 3 cards together can produce infinite damage and infinite squirrels.. it's a little insane o-o

Most my other decks are simple as hell and don't really combo or anything. trample one being get big creatures, overwhelming stampede. simple things like that xD

Hermes 07-11-2012 08:05 PM

I know how that is.

Yer a timmy, like most new players

Ducky 07-11-2012 08:06 PM

I have 10 decks now. one of them being a total fail/joke, but the rest or sort of okay i think.

Hermes 07-11-2012 08:37 PM

Jokes are fun

like panties

To elaborate: Joke decks can be fun to play, and you should never ever look down on them =)

Ducky 07-11-2012 08:52 PM

Mine is just all my miracle cards stuck in a pile with a lot of the mana myrs. And Karn, just because Karn.

Hermes 07-11-2012 09:07 PM

ew

sounds like a super fun deck that could poop on people if it works

original karn is best karn

Ducky 07-11-2012 09:16 PM

i have three entreat the angels hiding in there, which can get pretty horrible. I only use it in multiplayer, and generally roll a dice to decide who i target with anything i miracle :P it's just to add a sort of wildcard to games.

Planeswalker Karn is fun though. We reset a game and made a person who had gone home to bed come back. Then i used world slayer.. then Worldfire >_> it's quite the annoying deck.

Hermes 07-11-2012 09:29 PM

wtf

stop it

sell the entreats

go buy as many copies of Yeva, Nature's Herald as you can

send them to me

be awesome

get some ass

Ducky 07-11-2012 09:33 PM

I got crazy amounts of mythics out of the avacyn restored booster box i bought >_<

i'll wait for m13 to be officially released before i go about buying cards from it >_>

Hermes 07-11-2012 09:38 PM

but

but

BUT GREEEEEN!

Ducky 07-12-2012 11:41 AM

I do love me some green.

hyjin 07-12-2012 12:34 PM

so it took me a while to get around to this but here is my deck build. i will enjoy your feedback and input:

Hyjin's white humans (x61):
Creatures (x28)
Champion of the Parish x4
Gideon's Lawkeeper x4
Doomed Traveler x4
Elite Inquisitor x3
Mirran Crusader x4
Adaptive Automaton x2
Mentor of the Meek x2
Fiend Hunter x3
Silverblade Paladin x1
Riders of Gavony x1

Spells (x11)
Bonds of faith x3
Honor of the Pure x4
Oblivion Ring x4

Artifacts (x1)
Otherworld Atlas x1

Lands (x21)
Cavern of souls x1
Gavony Township x2
Sunpetal Grove x4
Plains x14

Ducky 07-12-2012 02:33 PM

That looks pretty solid for a small humans deck, and the Champion of the Parish has the potentially to become pretty threatening. how do you plan to play it? Is it all about getting the champion big, or swamping with lots of small creatures?

hyjin 07-12-2012 04:01 PM

depends on what hands i get... (starting hand 3 planes, 1 champ, 1 adaptive, 1 cavern, and one bonds) first turn play land and then champ. next turn draw (fiend hunter) play second land then bonds on either enemy creature (if any that is big) or on champ. next turn draw again (planes) play land and then either adaptive or fiend hunter depending on opponents last turn.

so i guess you can say its make champ big but other times it beat my opponent with small stuff until i get them bigger with honor

(yes i did just pull out my cards to do that)

Ducky 07-12-2012 07:28 PM

I would be worried by the lack of protection from removal, especially if you're playing it where one creature getting big is your win condition. If you're going for a swarm condition then removal isn't as big of an issue.
I would suggest looking into some other equipments, like mask of avacyn or either of the hexproof/shroud boots. then there's little ones like bladed bracers that give additional things when on humans.
Otherwise it seems fairly solid and should get a fair amount of creatures out pretty fast. Though that may lead to a fairly limited hand size quite fast, with only one card in the whole deck to help with that.

Really though i could say all sorts of things, but i can't really see it or really guess how it will play. you just have to play test it a lot.

hyjin 07-12-2012 07:33 PM

i play test it everyday when i can

Ducky 07-12-2012 07:52 PM

I get to test out my updated islandwalk deck tomorrow. Merfolk and fish everywhere.

hyjin 07-12-2012 08:04 PM

whoot fish people


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