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Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 12:37 AM

Acedia


Quiet Man Cometh 07-21-2016 02:45 AM

I like this part here:

"twisting the abyss
wounding the universe
signing a death sentence with a mother's kiss

Someone else will bury them."

I like the little solo lines you've been adding lately, and can't help but note that parentheses seems to be replacing your ellipses. ;)

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 03:27 AM

Oh get out of here, this poem is terrible and that's the worst part! :P

But no seriously, this poem is my worst in a while.

Quiet Man Cometh 07-21-2016 03:39 AM

well maybe that "mother's kiss" part I'm not sure about, but I do like internal rhyming and such.

Suzerain of Sheol 07-21-2016 02:14 PM

It's all tripe. Hate it hate it hate it. Though I guess the rhyming came out all right.

Suzerain of Sheol 12-08-2016 10:21 PM

Agathós Daímōn


Quiet Man Cometh 12-09-2016 12:36 AM

Is there something in the title I'm missing? Google finds "Agathodaemon" but I'm not sure if that's what you are referring to, here.

As usual, you have that wonderful, blunt, face-punch line at the end. :)

Suzerain of Sheol 12-09-2016 12:38 AM

Yes, that is the same term.

That line almost feels like a caricature of my usual tendency, not sure I'm sold on it. But, I am rather happy with the last three stanzas before it.

Quiet Man Cometh 12-09-2016 01:15 AM

I think the last line works quite well, but I fond of that trait.

I'm not sure I'm following the old god's details you have going in the middle of the poem. Sort of like they are unwilling participants in humanity's construction of something... not really sure. A divine authority to play... master?

Suzerain of Sheol 12-09-2016 02:44 AM

The opposite, actually. As though these incarnations of evil could not conceive and would want no part of the disastrous disgrace being described in the poem, thus making it something uniquely human and uniquely horrible.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 12:00 AM

Platonic Hate


Quiet Man Cometh 02-14-2017 04:09 AM

Okay so I read that as "Syphilis" at first, yet I still had the image of the guy and his rock. Good line, though.

I'm sitting here wondering what constitutes a "solipsistic mind game." Unless, that is the totality of conscious thought and the life that we think we lead through it.

I'm rolling those last few lines around in my head, trying to get an image of the fetus and what's happening to it, metaphorically speaking. I think I have a very good idea of what's actually going on in a literal fashion. Ew.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 04:11 AM

*ahem*

Quote:

That enamoring and solipsistic mind-crime
And as for the last line, considering I don't believe in the existence of the soul... take that as you will. :/

Quiet Man Cometh 02-14-2017 04:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Suzerain of Sheol (Post 1756952)
*ahem*



And as for the last line, considering I don't believe in the existence of the soul... take that as you will. :/

Well...I guess in some ways the statement remains the same.

Suzerain of Sheol 02-14-2017 04:22 AM

Well, "mind-crime" is a term coined by Nick Bostrom in his book, Superintelligence, as one of the "malignant failure modes" an AI can develop; in this case, it represents the simulation of immoral or unethical behavior in the 'mind' of the AI, such that it is indistinguishable experientially from the actual committing of the act.

It can also describe the actions of humans performed on non-sentient but in every other regard, human-seeming machines/robots. I.e. if you have a torture orgy with your robots, just because they can't experience what you're doing to them, the act for you is completely unable to be parsed from reality (assuming total simulation of human reaction from this brain-dead machine.)

That then gets into the concept of Philosophy Zombies, an old thought experiment to outline solipsism, i.e. 'What if I am the only conscious mind and everyone else merely acts as though they were, but has no internal awareness?'

So, I would hope that gives some insight into that choice of phrase? :P

Quiet Man Cometh 02-20-2017 05:00 AM

I'm going to have to go back and read the poem again when I'm more awake, but I think I've got "mind-crime" down.


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