I wasn't attacking you or anything, just continued discussion in general, not even about those certain pictures.


Anyways. A theme change. for realz this time. -tackles Sei-

Maybe I should just change my sig before someeone else pees their pants.

While I am not a fan of yaoi myself, I also understand that some people are and I let then have their fun. As long as it's good, clean fun. Those who take it too far - with young kids or adults - are some of the worst human beings around.

*noms on a cloud with Rainy* <3

Its why parents should be watching their kids.. if they see a anime with a sexual situation or such its up to the parents to either explain to them what is going on or tell them its bad.. If someone mimics something they see it isn't the creators fault.

Its pretty similar to a child walking in on their parents or an older sibling then going out to mimic it with someone else. Yes It can get them into trouble but its not the fault of the creator. Its why people tell kids "stay away from strangers" and not to mimic stuff they see on tv.

Anywhoo

I am uploading my picture.. I finished it.. =/ keep an eye out on my Canvas thread in the art gallery

So, Rainy, how much did that outfit cost? *change of subject* :3

Sometimes kids don't give a shit about what you say though. :/ And usually, it's not strangers but fathers, uncles, teachers and priests who molest kids. Yes I said fathers.

How are you feeling, Sei? Very tired?

Oh, okay, DK, I just wonder what would you say if your kid ended up in such situations. Cause, you know, the forbidden fruit is the sweetest.

-will not talk about it anymore under nearly any circumstances, since she's too old and too smart to get in such problems-

Oh. I think... Erm, I bought Ermine hair and Kyo hair and the tights and that's about it, so I suppose about 550 aurum. x3

Still I wonder why a few years should make any difference. My friend dated a 22 year old man when she was 15 and her parents was okay with it. Really I don't see how that is okay. But I guess it is? The man was like a friend to her brother or something...buh...and this is probably very common. Hey wait think, if a 17 year old dates a 18 year old I guess he's a pedo too. xD But whatever, lets end this okay?

Considering that my father raped me when I was 2. I have a pretty good Idea what goes on in the minds of Pedo's AND the victems. If I saw Real Life Child porn stuff I would report it. But if its anime/manga it means it isnt REAL. and if My child came across such stuff I would explain it to them that it isn't real and if someone older then them did such things they should scream and run away. There is a Difference between Real Life and Anime. One is Real one isn't. It is like someone listening to a song that has words like "I cut my wrists like cheep cupons and say that death was on sale today" and blaming it cause their kids got depressed and killed them selves.

Its the Media's fault my kid got molested.. No its the adults who hurt the child who is at fault. if you don't want your child seeing stuff like this, bubble wrap your house, keep them from the internet and cable/satalite tv and don't have sex or kiss your spouse. they are gonna see it one way or another.

Wow yeah... ;/ Like I said, the danger is usually closer than you think. Sorry to hear that DK. I have no experiences myself so I can't say more than that.

*steps back in*

It was depicting pedophilia. End of story. What you look at, to me, is your business, but if it can be offensive to someone? Don't put it up on the public forums.

Also, would you say Hentai isn't porn? Cause, it is.

Now, look, this situation seems to be resolved, and I think we should just drop it. One side saying animated pedophilia is completely acceptable, and one saying it isn't, is just going to go on forever.

Sen - Well when people start blaming TV and Songs for someone's actions it kinda pisses me off.. If I see a child doing such things it real life I'd tell them its a no-no and its bad.. the older the child gets the more curios they get. They will do stuff sooner or later but the best Adults can do is protect them the best they can by telling them its not safe and such. TV or not, kids will still get hurt. Talking to them or not, 1/5 will still want to see the puppies and get kidnapped. Anime/pictures and songs aren't to blame and neither are the parents (unless they sold the child or did the deed them-selves)

My mom still blames her self for what happened to me and she wasn't even home. She didn't know he was a child molester.. A wife beater yes a child molester she didn't know. when she found out she told me and ran.. and she still blames her self.

Hermes:
Hentai is porn >.> but the proper translation is Pervert =p
and the picture was just a kiss so it could be considered anything really.

I never said anything about "hentai". And they were barley toughing each other. If such tiny thing offends you internet is no place to be. I can't say it without being rude. I bet you have had those porn ads slapped up the face before. It's nothing to whine over.

Next thing I know the first volume of Absolute Boyfriend is considered child porn cause father and daughter(5 years old) are bathing -.-

They were bathing with their dad in Totoro too. lol

okay, I am back sort of (:

Oh, but people are like monkeys - they like to mimic what they see. If it all is acceptable on TV, everyone is so "oooh, that's so sexy and cool, mmm, I like it soo much" so what's wrong in doing sexy and cool things in real life. Those kids -might- like it in the end and all, just like the ones in animes. Yea, some unstable minds will do it nevertheless, but such things are basically encouraging it, since it's soo awesome if drawn and all.

But I think I'm really am heading off now. My head hurts and I agree with Hermes. This could go on and on.

And I repeat, I am talking in general, not about certain pictures.

Or, an all 16 years olds in teen movies having sex is child porn too.

I'm not whining.

And you know, I gotta ask, how old are you? 15? 16? Look, if someone tells you something offends them, it's really immature to just tell them that it shouldn't because it doesn't offend YOU. I could just post up pictures of dogs humping each other, and say "Well, dogs do it in public all the time." Is it seen on the web a lot? YUP. Is it still offensive? YUP.

Just because YOU find it acceptable, doesn't mean everyone else does. Your arguments have no grounds other than "I like it, so should you, blah blah."

Also, Volkner was there~ He's about my age if not older. Now, certain time frames, I find pretty acceptable. I'm currently with a 15 year old, I'm 19, but I've known her since I was 17. If I were 22? I would tell her to wait until she was 20 and tell me if she still wanted me. After you can buy booze, 15 seems a bit..uhm...yeah. Now, if she had known this guy for years, and her parents are okay with it? Well, as long as it really is love, I see no issue, as long as they aren't doing anything inappropriate. Also, yes, an 18 year old dating a 17 year old is held to the same rules as any other adult, except in situations where it is a high-school couple, in which case it is allowed.

I can't even hold my girlfriends hand in front of some people. That makes me terribly sad, but I can understand why. Why is that? Because I make it a point to try and understand other viewpoints, not force mine on people, then throw a minor fit when they still disagree.

Yea there too! Americans don't do that.. at least not where I am from cause they consider it Improper.. or something.. but its common in Japan for people to bath together.. heck look at the bathhouses! Children, teens, and adults all running around nakid or in just a towel. its a Perverts Paradise!

*zones out to Junjou Romantica* x3

Anyway.. who wants to see my newest art!


One i am 20, Two no one said you had to like it, three you started it with the "there are children of 10 in there!" if you don't like it just ignore it! four there wasn't anything bad in there really. I remember in the anime the Gym leaders became good friends with the trainers they fought, All in all it could have been a friendly gesture. Now If it was a image of something from PicoxPico then even I would have thrown a fit since that is a pedo anime and shouldn't be posted anywhere but Aarinfantasy.

Loveless is basically the same as that pic he had and I never seen anyone get bent out of shape over it. And Unlike the fan art.. it has acutal Animation! no one got bent out of shape.. they just ignored it if they didn't like it.

Art~? Ooh, I would LOVE to see it~

Umm NO, I never said you should like it. If I wanted to slap something up your face to offend I'd pick a real porn pic.

You say your relationship is any different but you know many people may not agree to that. You may already know so I don't understand why you are talking really.

*sigh* Alright, I get it. You aren't going to listen. I'm leaving. I'll come back when I feel less annoyed and when I sense less ignorance.

I'm not the only one who should listen. If we're gonna be fair you're no different from any other adult having a relationship with a child. She's under age no matter how you look at it. You brought it up so don't blame me.

Next time I'll just put a pic of two grandpas kissing.

Yea, ignore all that you don't like, also someone raping kids or selling drugs in front of your nose~

-really poofs now-

A fucking pokemon pic of someone barely smooching an adult isn't "raped in front of someone's eyes". You're just being unfair now. And we still don't know how old they are you were just assuming. Wouldn't surprise me if I got banned now wheeehoo. I bet lots would be so happy then.

It was a picture.. I am sure if someone posted real kiddy porn everyone would have reported them. It was a Fan Art! there was nothing sexual about it. and like sen said, no one knows the real ages of those characters. there is a BIG difference between real life and a PICTURE!

In all honestly you pushed your views on us first so we shared ours. If I see something I don't agree with in a pic I just ignore it. Like my new art.. It shows I could care less about religion. and its kinda violent.. and if one wants to see it go to my Gallery "D.K.'s Canvas" If you don't like stuff that shouts out "I don't believe in God and here is what I'd do to your cross" then don't go look at my art. It's pretty much the same thing.

This is getting tiresome, I have expressed my opinion. children mimic stuff YES! But if talked to properly they will know that mimic-ing stuff can get them into big trouble. Blame the pics you disagree on, or the anime you hate if you want.

NEW TOPIC ALREADY!

is the pokemon site fixed yet ><

Sorry I'm already pretty sure people hates me now so it wont matter. Maybe I'll just leave forever.

I was talking in GENERAL about showing/popularizing such things, not about those pictures. And I didn't report you and those pictures are gone, so you won't get banned.

I don't hate you, I was just expressing my opinion and so were you. Intelligent people don't hate each other for that.

And I was talking about adults fallowing fashions, in that one post, not the kids. But really. I don't wan this to end up in argue in where some thinks I hate someone. @_@ I thought we could discuss our opinions without such drama. Erm, yeah.

I'm just pissed cause I don't think it was necessary to be offended over it when there's much MUCH worst real and fake kiddi porn. I mean that wasn't even porn, not even close. People get offended when I say Jesus never existed. People get offended when you're gay. People get offended cause you don't wear green. What the hell doesn't offend people?

We talked previously that expressing opinions is not offending anyone, and I thought we both thought so, Senyoru. I was expressing opinion about such things in general, not certain pictures, and I thought you were just expressing your thoughts as well, not taking it as some sort attack at you.
I didn't call you pervert or anything. ><

And I was talking about THE REAL thing, not those two pictures. The actual anime/manga porn of such thing, the one that's actually taped. Not the two pokemon pictures/

Sen don't go. We all have our views and opinions, and we expressed them and then it got bent out of shape with people FUSING real life with fantasy. It was just a picture of 2 people, ages unknown, and looked to be kissing. My views on Real Life Child Porn are, who ever makes them should be killed. but I do like Hentai, shouta, Yaoi and Yuri. (shouta being little kids) I like the romance, I like the story lines.. Its just anime. If I saw someone raping someone I'd go and help the victem cause its real life.. If it happens in a anime Like Living sex toy delivery.. Oh well Nothing I can do, its a good anime in my opinion and well those girls deserved what they got cause they raped him first then tried to kill him.

When people fuse fantasy with reality thats when trouble starts.

Rainy - I think he was expressing those thoughts cause of Hermes words.. really..

there wasn't anything wrong with what was in that picture

Well maybe not you but others clearly had other ideas in mind.

-sigh- You saying that is like saying "oh, killing a whole family for revenge in movie is also a right thing to do cause people don't really die".
But seriously, I was talking about general stuff, not those two pictures.

Well the whole thing started over a picture. there for your words will be fused in with the argument over the fan art.

and I am saying, its ok in a movie cause its NOT REAL! if it happens in real life i'd take legal action cause there is a difference between Fantasy and Reality.

I still feel very unfairly treated for being viewed as liking something I do not.

Fine, you two had an argue (I still think it was expressing opinions more than argue, though), but that's not enough to quit a site or think everyone hates you. Things like that happen and are usually forgotten in a day, week at most. You also couldn't know someone could find it offensive, but now the pictures are gone, we have exchanged our opinions and it should be dropped, once and for all.

Yeah I HOPE so I can only hope. Sorry I wont be putting any more drawings with kids smooching adult's cheeks.