That doesn't make sense... It doesn't go to the graveyard nor does it become exiled. So it stays in play always?

It never dies but you cant use it if it has zero loyalty points.

i think it does die... my friend told me once it hits 0 it dies... it counts as another player... if your life reaches 0 you die. so does the planeswalkers life once it reaches 0

I can ask him again for some clarification.

you should because from what i know they die once they reach 0 and cant be used

I was told it counts as a creature... BAh now I'm all confused > .<

It counts as a player. And its loyalty points are like a normal players life points. once their loyalty points reach 0 they die.

Ok thanks Hyjin. I'm debating on if i want to go to the draft tonight or not.

Drafts are fun... i havent done one before...

Well i havent either i'm still trying to decide if i wanna do the draft or see the avengers movie....

I would love to do a draft. Been wanting to ever since I got into magic Dx

Well how many people are in your friend group who plays magic?

There are up to 14 of us i think, though normally only 6 or so at a time.

You guys could easily do a draft. Each player gets 3 unopened booster packs. Remove land, tokens, and any rules cards. First pack you pass to the left, second to the right, then third to the left again. And each person can take one card each time the packs pass them. Then based upon the cards that you drafted you make a deck of at least 40 cards. You want at least 18 creatures. And then you play with that deck that you just made. It's really cool in my opinion.

well, I am getting a full booster box (which is late >:|) so I guess I could save it and then arrange something once I'm back in Edinburgh with everyone.

The thing is, while I'm part of the friends group I'm the newest and least involved. I doubt I could arrange something

I think you can do it. I got third out of 14 and it was my first draft.

while they're happy to invite me to things to fill out a group, i doubt any of them would be all the interested in going to something I arranged. I'm not really friends with any of them on that sort of level yet.

that's where the main issues lies.

Well if you were using your box then what if you let them keep the cards they drafted? Would that interest them?

so im debating on to go on a planeswalker hunt...
Elspeth Tirel can be found in Scars of Mirrodin.
But there are the odds that i wont be able to find it, but there are some decent rares in there that i can sell for later on...

So i need help. Buy booster packs or just but the one card???

the mirridon boosters will be vanishing soon enough, once the new block starts. If you don't have many cards from it I would go for the Boosters. That's if you have the sort of money to fling around xD

yeah that is what i was thinking of doing... at least it lets me find good and useful cards from the set.

I personally don't lime the Mirridon block that much. Infect and what ever that one where you can play life in stead of mana aren't really mechanics I like.

Well I'd say look at how much the card would cost versus how much youd be spending on the boosters but if you want other cards as well then go with the booster pack

My Avacyn Restored Booster Box wont be here until something like the 15th /sadface

Oh no!!! That's so sad! I loves my box *huggles it close* on Wednesday I'm gonna go down to the game store and have the owner help me sort through my box to help me figure out if I should keep or trade different cards and also keep track of different cards for price value.

I use an android app i have on my phone to get prices for the cards i have. Would you even have anyone to actually trade with? THat's the one thing I don't do when it comes to magic.

It's more with him helping me he can say oh this person who comes to the shop desperately needs this card which you dot need and he would probably have a couple cards to trade with to make it better for you.

That happened on Friday night. I traded a vexing devil for two planes walkers. I got Garruk and Gideon.

I want at least 4 vexing devils from my box. They're incredibly good. like.. overpowerd an insane amount XD

Yes but as of right now I'm not playing red. And I wanted both of the planes walkers.

I'm planning on making a red burn deck, so they fit right in there perfectly.

Yeah since I have no particular need for them at this time and I needed the other ones.

so.. that's a green and a white plainswalker, right?

I tend to only use plainswalkers if they are very specifically tailored to the theme of my deck. Like Liliana in my Zombie reanimation. brings back every single creature from all graveyards under my control as a zombie. therefore all my zombies that boost other zombies will come back, and other ones k still have in play will boost them as well. so there ends up being a whole bunch of big ass zombies everywhere XD

zombies... they get annoying with the buffs

i generally get my 2/2 zombie tokens up to 6/5 with deathtouch, and i get a lot of them @_@

i know that is the annoying part of them

it's probably my most effective deck, so I use it fairly often. I don't think it is viewed as annoying by who i play with. they all use much more crazy annoying things :P

I'm still beginning and learning to build decks do I thought it might be a good way for me to make decks based around them.

out of curiosity, which versions of each plainswalker are they?

Ummm not sure at the moment.....

I think he means what sets did they come from Airi.