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ml1201 02-07-2017 08:33 PM

Yeah, its bad when that happens. >.< the ones that need more then X number of chains to deal damage are a pain in the ass. :/

Coda 02-07-2017 08:38 PM

Aizen has a GIGANTIC pool of available subs. I'm running Summer Pandora - Eschamali - Lumiel - Christmas Haku, and I swap out Lumiel for Zuoh if I need an all-attributes team. About the only thing you CAN'T run with Aizen is rows.

But yeah... the meta does look like it's going to be a problem. Aizen singlehandedly jumped me from "I'm struggling with some descends" to "oh, I just one-shotted the entire Noah Dragon dungeon and coasted through Machine Hera and Machine Zeus".

Illusion 02-07-2017 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1755762)
Aizen has a GIGANTIC pool of available subs. I'm running Summer Pandora - Eschamali - Lumiel - Christmas Haku, and I swap out Lumiel for Zuoh if I need an all-attributes team. About the only thing you CAN'T run with Aizen is rows.

But yeah... the meta does look like it's going to be a problem. Aizen singlehandedly jumped me from "I'm struggling with some descends" to "oh, I just one-shotted the entire Noah Dragon dungeon and coasted through Machine Hera and Machine Zeus".

I mean subs that would make his subs idea or perfect. Like Ra Dragon, unbindable with skill bind resist, the perfect skills, low cool down rate, ect.

nickjr 02-10-2017 03:50 PM

@Coda re: description of red text
that's a better description than mine, haha

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I want new stuff to work on, so I rolled

3 Mitos (I guess this is where my LMetas went LOL I've never rolled LMeta herself), 1 Momiji, 1 Sheena, 1 Elgenubi, 1 Navi

Free roll was Barbara

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAH NAVI'S SO CUTE BUT I DON'T HAVE A REASON TO USE HER -SOBS VIOLENTLY- I hope her uvo is at least decent ;____;

Barbara has so much potential, but... machines! C'mon GH give us machines like you give us devils ;______; or let Barbara's subpool include dragons, too... that works

I love playing Noctis; I bet I'll enjoy playing Barbara, too (less damage than Noctis but tankier in return--well, not with her current subpool, but y'know...) because I'm loving the match-4 playstyle and I love match-2-specific-colors leads

Illusion 02-10-2017 04:13 PM

I wish Navi was good as her silver egg counterpart. D:

I just don't understand the 4 skill bind resists. I just don't.

hyjin 02-10-2017 07:59 PM

Pal machine = + fodder for me lul until i get coloring book cards

Coda 02-10-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Illusion (Post 1756100)
I wish Navi was good as her silver egg counterpart. D:

I just don't understand the 4 skill bind resists. I just don't.

For a (1 + 0.5*skill bind resists)xATK spike damage active skill, I assume.

hyjin 02-10-2017 10:34 PM

Coda how do multi tpa/bind/row awaken skills work?

Coda 02-11-2017 01:08 AM

For TPAs, they multiply together. A single TPA gives you a 1.5x damage bonus for a 4-match. Two TPAs give you 1.5x1.5x = 2.25x bonus.

For bind resist, each awakening adds a 50% chance to resist.

For rows, each awakening adds a 10% damage bonus. For example, four rows is 1.4x damage.

What I was talking about, though, are active skills like Facet's: "ATK x1.3 for 2 turns for every Two-Pronged Attack on the team." If you have Facet on your team, and everyone on your team has two TPAs, then that's a total of 4.6xATK for two turns. So in the hypothetical case of a monster with an active skill keying off of how many Skill Bind Resists you have... that's the only thing that makes sense.

hyjin 02-17-2017 10:53 AM

New evos dropped for odins, balboa and baldin. You must devolve odin to get the new split evo. Red and blue lead skill changes to row

Coda 02-17-2017 11:49 AM

Red already was a row leader.

DK isn't going to want to change her Blodin.

I... might switch my Grodin. It's hard to choose. The TPA makes him fit my team better, but the loss of RCV hurts.

hyjin 02-17-2017 12:14 PM

Rodin loses hp for rcv and damage goes from 1.5x to 2.5x also loses bind for more row. I'm gonna upgrade my godin so I can use him as lead instead of verdandi.

Illusion 02-17-2017 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Coda (Post 1758198)
Red already was a row leader.

DK isn't going to want to change her Blodin.

I... might switch my Grodin. It's hard to choose. The TPA makes him fit my team better, but the loss of RCV hurts.

Rsv can be made up by egging your Mons.

Coda 02-17-2017 05:12 PM

That 2000 auto-heal can't be made up by any amount of egging. Even piling on a full stack of auto-heal latents (which would be a stupid idea) can't keep up with that. Grodin's whole schtick is supposed to be tanking single heavy hits and immediately healing it back up.

Demonskid 02-17-2017 09:04 PM

Yeaa.... not changing my bodin

hyjin 02-17-2017 10:18 PM

I changed my Rodin. Debating on green

Coda 02-18-2017 01:01 AM

If I had a Rodin I'd change him; it's an upgrade with minimal downside.

ml1201 02-20-2017 12:51 PM

And think red is the only one me and DK are still missing. x'D

Demonskid 02-20-2017 08:30 PM

I don't have Green or Red >w> I only have Blue

Coda 02-21-2017 01:09 PM

I've only got green.

Did the One-Shot Challenge. Had to use DK's BOdin instead of another Aizen because of that freaking "absorb 200,000+ damage" shield and needed something more controllable. That was a hassle.

Demonskid 02-21-2017 04:14 PM

I still cant do the oneshot challenges ono

Coda 02-21-2017 04:19 PM

I brute-forced my way through the first one-shot challenge. I think I used like 30 stones on it, and I've regretted doing that.

The second one was easier because I brought in Valkyrie Ana TPA team instead of my Christmas Archangel tank team.

The third and fourth ones came up after I got Aizen, who is ridiculously OP, so I steamrolled them. It's a little disheartening how OP he really is, because I tried using one of my other teams for Hera-Is Descended and got blasted hard.

This last one included a level specifically designed to counter sweeper teams like 2xAizen, which has so much damage output that even a bare 3-match against the (light-element) boss was hitting for more than the 200,000 threshold.

Demonskid 02-21-2017 06:17 PM

o3o you and your OP mons... -needs one-

hyjin 02-21-2017 06:48 PM

i cant beat Ra mat dungeon... sopdet gets low and then absorbs my damage lol

hyjin 02-27-2017 05:07 PM

Revo for orochi and susano have released today.

Coda 02-27-2017 06:52 PM

I... did not know that Skill Assist got reworked.

I've been avoiding picking up Tans because they're just box space hogs. My mailbox is full of Tan dungeons that I haven't wanted to open. Bloody heck, if I had known I could fuse six of them together to get something that would guarantee a skill-up I would have had monsters with better skill ranks by now. >_<

And I never knew that assists with the same main element granted a stat bonus! I've been freaking missing out!

Demonskid 02-27-2017 07:26 PM

wait.. what? o-o

Coda 02-27-2017 08:31 PM

Yeah. Uvo a Tan with five other Tans of the same color as materials and you end up with a King Tan. If you feed a King Tan to a monster along 1-4 skillup fodder monsters then each of those skillup monsters has a 100% skillup chance. For example, right now if I fed a King Badtan and four Red Dragon Fruits to my Eschamali, I'd get four guaranteed skillups. (Not that it actually matters, my Eschamali's maxed out, but, y'know.)

And I assigned my Karin as an assist on my Aizen, and Aizen got a hefty bump to HP, ATK, and RCV based on Karin's stats.

ml1201 02-27-2017 09:09 PM

that's good to know about the Tans, so King tans are kind of like the py things (like shynpy)?

Coda 02-27-2017 09:40 PM

Sort of, but Pys are better. Pys are just a guaranteed skillup, end of story. King Tans require you to have a material that COULD skillup a monster and it just improves the skillup rate to 100% instead of whatever it normally is (20%?).

But Tans are a LOT cheaper to get -- they show up in urgent dungeons, whereas Pys are rare and cost lots of monster points to buy.

ml1201 02-27-2017 11:27 PM

yeah, so in the long run its probably better to use them. x'D

Demonskid 02-27-2017 11:46 PM

Oooo =o DK needsmore Tans now *A*

hyjin 02-27-2017 11:55 PM

Evo Tan to make king tan, Fuse your mon with king tan and 4 mats for guaranteed skill up. I like that they did that but i hate that it takes 6 tans. 1 as base and 5 for evo

Coda 02-28-2017 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hyjin (Post 1761121)
Evo Tan to make king tan, Fuse your mon with king tan and 4 mats for guaranteed skill up. I like that they did that but i hate that it takes 6 tans. 1 as base and 5 for evo

King Tan and up to 4 mats for up to 4 guaranteed skill ups.

hyjin 02-28-2017 10:37 AM

Which is nice but when you don't have the box space it's a pain

Demonskid 02-28-2017 03:14 PM

always need box spaces ono

i can't roll anymore today and orochi is in the thinger.. ;-;

Coda 02-28-2017 03:54 PM

I thought you already had Orochi?

Demonskid 02-28-2017 04:02 PM

No.. never got him QnQ
I pulled a second Lakshimi and a Salamander ;-;

hyjin 02-28-2017 04:13 PM

I pulled a 2nd saria

ml1201 02-28-2017 08:34 PM

I pulled a second susano...which I currently have in his reincarnated form, and another Tsuku Yomi, which I just need a Tengu for the awoken form, and then I can get her reincarnated form. .-. I don't know what to do with the extras...


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